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Here's the GDC we know and love

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Re: Here's the GDC we know and love

I see they'd rather spend time making a funny than addressing some serious concerns about bumper rules...
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I see they'd rather spend time making a funny than addressing some serious concerns about bumper rules...
I'm suspecting the 10 seconds they spent thinking and writing that response out, comes out to a wash with the 10 seconds they would have spent citing the rule/ page number and writing it out.. Just a guess
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Re: Here's the GDC we know and love

Just like the question about what is under the carpeting (from last year's Q&A). (:
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Re: Here's the GDC we know and love

I think the point they are trying to make is "asked, and answered, several times elsewhere". And a fraction of a difference between brand names isn't worth worrying about.
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I think the point they are trying to make is "asked, and answered, several times elsewhere". And a fraction of a difference between brand names isn't worth worrying about.
After all, it is the wheels that are making most of the difference in driving dynamics...
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Re: Here's the GDC we know and love

I think everyone needs to lay off the GDC a bit. Try and remember what they have to do every year. Creating a new game with a new set of rules is a ridiculos challenge. The tiny difference of material is the least of their worries. Lay off them.
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I think everyone needs to lay off the GDC a bit. Try and remember what they have to do every year. Creating a new game with a new set of rules is a ridiculos challenge. The tiny difference of material is the least of their worries. Lay off them.
No but we'd really love to get some bumper rule updates, especially since a team who previously thought their bumpers were legal due to poor wording the manual could be told they have to change it or be DQ'd at the regional bot check
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No but we'd really love to get some bumper rule updates, especially since a team who previously thought their bumpers were legal due to poor wording the manual could be told they have to change it or be DQ'd at the regional bot check
They get an immense number of questions DAILY! Many of them I'm sure are about bumpers as much as other things. They are just trying to get the bumper rules right. Just be patient with them, that's all were asking.
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I think it is even better ...
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I think it is even better ...

I don't. Everytime the GDC starts making silly remarks in an official response (which like it or not, a Q&A answer is) some poor soul or team gets confused. As an official, I'm one of the people who has to help cleanup the mess. Try telling some team that what they built is illegal because they didn't understand somebody acting in an official capacity was making a joke.

At least these two responses are hard to implement in hardware.
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Re: Here's the GDC we know and love

I still think the best GDC response is the one below from 2007(in my signature)
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I don't. Everytime the GDC starts making silly remarks in an official response (which like it or not, a Q&A answer is) some poor soul or team gets confused. As an official, I'm one of the people who has to help cleanup the mess. Try telling some team that what they built is illegal because they didn't understand somebody acting in an official capacity was making a joke.

At least these two responses are hard to implement in hardware.
Understood, I am an official too. Head referee 6 times over the past 3 years, so I understand that sentiment. However it is the team's responsibility to at least read and try to understand the ENTIRE manual BEFORE asking questions that require valuable resources to answer.

Sometimes a little levity helps break the tension in a stressful environment.

I would genuinely like to know of any concrete example where one of the GDC "funnies" caused a team any hardship.
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