Go to Post When someone asks me to define Gracious Professionalism, I'm just going to send them to AndyMark. - rsisk [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Technical Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 13-01-2009, 15:48
SamM SamM is offline
Registered User
FRC #5842 (Royal Robotics)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: New Port Richey
Posts: 48
SamM is just really niceSamM is just really niceSamM is just really niceSamM is just really niceSamM is just really nice
R06 Questions

<R06> states that

The ROVER WHEELS must
be used in a “normal” orientation (i.e. with the tread of the wheel in contact with the ground,
with the axis of rotation parallel to the ground and penetrating the wheel hub).

My first question is: what defines the axis of rotation? Is it only the axis that the wheel rotates about to produce motion of the robot, or does it apply to any and all rotations of the wheel.
For example, by my understanding any wheel that uses a 'steering' system, has two axes of rotation, one through the wheel hub, and one through whatever axes the wheel turns around to change its orientation.
Similarly, many suspension systems, allow the wheel to move up or down based on slight angular rotations about a pivot point that is parallel to the wheel's rotation but passing through a point on the frame, well outside the wheel.

Second axis of rotation
|
|.......................Wheel
|..................._ /
o------------I o I
....................--

o----____........._
..............-----I o I
.......................--
Secondly: Would a suspension system like this, either on springs, or controlled, be legal, assuming that its motion does not result in a significant change in robot height that would affect bumper, and trailer height calculations?
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 13-01-2009, 15:51
GaryVoshol's Avatar
GaryVoshol GaryVoshol is offline
Cogito ergo arbitro
no team
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
Posts: 5,740
GaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond reputeGaryVoshol has a reputation beyond repute
Re: R06 Questions

The axis of rotation for the wheel is through the hub - the wheel rotates around the hub and axle. The axle going through the wheel can point north, south, east or west, or any spot in between the cardinal directions. The axle cannot point at an up or down angle.
__________________
(since 2004)
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-01-2009, 14:29
SamM SamM is offline
Registered User
FRC #5842 (Royal Robotics)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: New Port Richey
Posts: 48
SamM is just really niceSamM is just really niceSamM is just really niceSamM is just really niceSamM is just really nice
Re: R06 Questions

But does anyone know if using this method to raise and lower a wheel(s) would be legal? I can't find any discussion of this on here or on the Q&A forums.
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 16-01-2009, 14:50
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,779
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: R06 Questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamM View Post
But does anyone know if using this method to raise and lower a wheel(s) would be legal? I can't find any discussion of this on here or on the Q&A forums.
It isn't on Q&A. However, putting any angle (with respect to the horizontal plane known as the floor) on the axle changes the orientation of the axis of rotation with respect to the floor. Under <R06>, your axis of rotation (axle) must be parallel to the floor. Therefore, you would be in violation of <R06>.

If you went straight up and down, without changing the axle's angle to the floor, you would most likely not be in violation of <R06>. (Though Q&A should be asked to confirm this.)
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
<R06> normal wear and tear Darkcrosbone Rules/Strategy 54 27-01-2009 18:03
R06 clarification Bruceb Rules/Strategy 6 06-01-2009 17:13
Conflict with rules R05 & R06? Wayne Doenges Rules/Strategy 17 04-02-2007 14:34
R06 - weight and configuration jimfortytwo Technical Discussion 6 18-02-2004 08:06
Rule <R06> Jack Technical Discussion 18 11-01-2004 13:36


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 18:57.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi