<G14> during eliminations

[Andy L]

Originally Posted by Bob Steele

I can see an interesting strategy in which an alliance who has won the first match and seems to be losing the 2nd match dumps balls into its own alliance in order to gain the supercell advantage in the third match of the elimination.

I've seen this said all over the place, something like this just doesn't seem morally right to me

[IKE]

Originally Posted by Andy L

I've seen this said all over the place, something like this just doesn't seem morally right to me

Depends on your details within set of morals.
Point shaving is not morally right either, but this rule is essentially enforcing that.

Asking your students to not do their best might be considered morally wrong too, but you have said instead that is noble.

Should the #8 alliance have an equal shot as the #1 alliance? There is already a serpentine draft, now G14. Maybe the #1 alliance should have to wait 60 seconds before it is their turn to play.

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All that being said, it is a rule and we should follow it. Some will use it as a strategy though. Many of the teams complaining the loudest remeber the 2002 game where you could nullify another teams victory by shaving points on your side (QPs were 3x the loosers score for the winners, and the loosers score for the loosers thus if the looser scored 0 it was like the match never happened).

[Koko Ed]

If your alliance is capable of pounding the opposing alliance into mush the previous match what does it matter if they have supercells if you can so readily outscore them with ease? They'll probably just probably be more inclined to score evenn more points so the supercells won't be a factor. I think the supercell is this year's stack. A major game component that'll end up not being as big a factor as it was first thought out to be.

[jgannon]

Enforcing <G14> during eliminations makes sense to me, kind of. Carrying <G14> over from the last qualifying match to elims doesn't at all. I can imagine that bubble teams (as in, teams you'd expect to be picked toward the end of the second round) being burned by playing their last qualifying match with a team that's too good to care about <G14>. Ed is right that super cells will probably not make as big of a difference as some are expecting, but all other things being equal, I'm going to pick the team that's bringing all their cells to our alliance.

[Andy L]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

If your alliance is capable of pounding the opposing alliance into mush the previous match what does it matter if they have supercells if you can so readily outscore them with ease?

EXACTLY what I was thinking