Go to Post Baker, you certainly are a trouble maker. :) - Rich Kressly [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Competition > Rules/Strategy > Scouting
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2009, 17:50
Magnechu Magnechu is offline
Student Strategist
AKA: Mike Fouchet
FRC #0870 (RICE)
Team Role: Tactician
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 95
Magnechu has a spectacular aura aboutMagnechu has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to Magnechu
DS Scouting System

My team is considering using our Nintendo DSes in order to scout this year. We're thinking of just using the Opera browser cartridge that's availabe and log on to a web server and do it through that, but we're open to ideas.

Basically, looking for other teams that have used their DSs in the past for scouting and how it worked, was it successful, etc. All opinions and help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
__________________
SBPLI Long Island Champions 2003 2005 2006
SBPLI Semi Finalists 2007 2008 (#1 seed) 2009 (#1 seed)
Galileo Finalists 2009 (thanks 1717 and 2775)

  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2009, 17:56
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,810
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: DS Scouting System

A quick search for "DS scouting" turned up the following list: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/se...archid=1974860

You should be able to find something there...
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2009, 19:32
demosthenes2k8's Avatar
demosthenes2k8 demosthenes2k8 is offline
Graduated but not gone
AKA: Matt Soucy
FRC #0166 (Chop Shop 166)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Merrimack, NH
Posts: 589
demosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via AIM to demosthenes2k8 Send a message via Yahoo to demosthenes2k8
Re: DS Scouting System

Hmm...list's broken...

This seems like a neat idea-does anyone know what the web browser in DSOrganize can and can't do? Like, if it can do various forms and such?

I don't have the Opera browser, but I use an R4 and DSOrganize...I'd test out now, but I don't actually have a wireless access point I can use...at the moment.


I think this could be a useful idea-good thought!
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2009, 20:12
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,810
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: DS Scouting System

Quote:
Originally Posted by demosthenes2k8 View Post
Hmm...list's broken...

This seems like a neat idea-does anyone know what the web browser in DSOrganize can and can't do? Like, if it can do various forms and such?

I don't have the Opera browser, but I use an R4 and DSOrganize...I'd test out now, but I don't actually have a wireless access point I can use...at the moment.


I think this could be a useful idea-good thought!
After a little while, the search lists go offline. So, a partial list of the threads...
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ht=DS+scouting
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ht=DS+scouting
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ht=DS+scouting
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ht=DS+scouting

You could also do the same search yourself--the search button is in the orange bar at the top of every page.
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2009, 21:19
Magnechu Magnechu is offline
Student Strategist
AKA: Mike Fouchet
FRC #0870 (RICE)
Team Role: Tactician
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 95
Magnechu has a spectacular aura aboutMagnechu has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to Magnechu
Re: DS Scouting System

Though I appreciate the links and the information in them, they don't offer many (or any?) experiences teams have had actually USING the scouting system. It only talks about the actual how-to. What I'm REALLY looking for is if it was effective or not, was it better than pen and pencil?
__________________
SBPLI Long Island Champions 2003 2005 2006
SBPLI Semi Finalists 2007 2008 (#1 seed) 2009 (#1 seed)
Galileo Finalists 2009 (thanks 1717 and 2775)

  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2009, 22:38
MrForbes's Avatar
MrForbes MrForbes is offline
Registered User
AKA: Jim
FRC #1726 (N.E.R.D.S.)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Sierra Vista AZ
Posts: 6,016
MrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: DS Scouting System

We used the DS scouting system at two regionals last year, and at both of them we were a "picked" team, we did not get to use our data to actually choose alliance partners.

But we did get useable data, and it was a lot quicker to compile than using pencil/paper methods.
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2009, 22:39
EricH's Avatar
EricH EricH is offline
New year, new team
FRC #1197 (Torbots)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 19,810
EricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond reputeEricH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: DS Scouting System

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnechu View Post
Though I appreciate the links and the information in them, they don't offer many (or any?) experiences teams have had actually USING the scouting system. It only talks about the actual how-to. What I'm REALLY looking for is if it was effective or not, was it better than pen and pencil?
Do the search I did. There are more threads in there. Some of them do discuss what you want to know about.
__________________
Past teams:
2003-2007: FRC0330 BeachBots
2008: FRC1135 Shmoebotics
2012: FRC4046 Schroedinger's Dragons

"Rockets are tricky..."--Elon Musk

  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-01-2009, 23:22
TheOtherGuy's Avatar
TheOtherGuy TheOtherGuy is offline
Unregistered User
AKA: Kevin Forbes
FRC #4183 (Bit Buckets)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 408
TheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: DS Scouting System

Quote:
Originally Posted by demosthenes2k8 View Post
Hmm...list's broken...

This seems like a neat idea-does anyone know what the web browser in DSOrganize can and can't do? Like, if it can do various forms and such?

I don't have the Opera browser, but I use an R4 and DSOrganize...I'd test out now, but I don't actually have a wireless access point I can use...at the moment.


I think this could be a useful idea-good thought!
I don't know if the internet is reliable enough for this application... but then again, it certainly would be easier! The system we made was just coded in PAlib and didn't have any neat features, so actually getting the data off of the cards and sorting it took a little longer to make and implement than I wanted it to. However, the scouting did provide a very accurate representation of which robots were doing the best and which weren't. We made it save the data to .txt files on the SD cards and then stuck them all in a giant Excel macro for sorting, which made looking up data a snap.

But I'd imagine that if internet isn't a problem with the new system (I'm not up to date on the status of wifi hotspots are regionals this year) we could probably get DSorganize working with a sorting website and wala!

I'm curious to know if any other teams tried DS scouting? One hour in a hotel room sorting data and picking teams is a lot better than 6 hours
__________________
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-01-2009, 11:44
demosthenes2k8's Avatar
demosthenes2k8 demosthenes2k8 is offline
Graduated but not gone
AKA: Matt Soucy
FRC #0166 (Chop Shop 166)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Merrimack, NH
Posts: 589
demosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to beholddemosthenes2k8 is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via AIM to demosthenes2k8 Send a message via Yahoo to demosthenes2k8
Re: DS Scouting System

PAlib is amazing, I'm hoping to use it with FIRST some time...

So, is there any news about whether we can use wifi hotspots this year? and what kinds of encryption is needed? The DS can't use WPA, just WEP.
OtherGuy: You could have set up a form and used dso to send data through the form.
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rex's Scouting System zim2411 Scouting 3 07-03-2008 00:40
Networked Scouting System Compnerd Scouting 1 31-01-2008 17:30
Your Scouting System Dantvman27 Scouting 36 11-03-2007 15:12
Team 66 Scouting System David66 Championship Event 0 11-04-2005 19:39


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:37.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi