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Re: Rule G32

Good discussion all..
"any contact by another ROBOT within the unprotected region (including the vertical projection of the unprotected region) will be considered incidental contact and will not be penalized.

Re Gary's interpretation of 32c. When I read it, I assumed that the "region" referred to the area inside the perimeter that was unprotected rather than the vertical plane above the perimeter. The projection of the vertical plane just extended this "region" to the whole robot height. (I see now that this could be in error)

To me it meant that any contact inside an open area was incidental since the designer decided to allow robots to penetrate to gain moon rock sweep up advantage but also allowed the internal contact. So there should not be a penalty if the penetrating robot causes damage to the open robot internals....however, what if the open robot causes damage to the penetrator (assuming the penetration is not malicious)? Well, since incidental contact is ruled, no penalty...a little unfair unless 32e comes into play somehow.

With my interpretation or Gary's, there is going to be some hard hitting with wide mouth robots running around. Seems the game rules allow this although it can be unsafe at times. So as designers, if our robot has corners less than 120 degrees, then these corners should be protected with strong structure at least 3 to 4 ins above ball height.... and hope that the penetrator has perimeter structure to match. jgrabers skinny rookie robot would still be a problem unless the rules were changed to force corners to have structure like I mentioned above.

If wide mouth robots attack other robots (say in an attempt to pin against a wall) rather than the trailer and cause damage the refs should have some rule to penalize this behavior.

Gary's response
"If your opening is so large that a significant corner of the other robot could be enveloped by it and now your 10" bar contacts an interior portion of that robot, you are not OK"

assumed that G32e is still in force. Seems we need a rule clarification here still.

Last edited by vamfun : 27-01-2009 at 17:12.
 


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