USB Gamepads as controllers?

[nathan.chupp]

how do i get my xbox 360 control to work????

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by nathan.chupp

how do i get my xbox 360 control to work????

Plug it in to an xbox 360?

Seriously, that controller does not follow the USB HID standard, and is not usable by the 2009 FRC Driver Station.

[Kakashi1261]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

Plug it in to an xbox 360?

Seriously, that controller does not follow the USB HID standard, and is not usable by the 2009 FRC Driver Station.

we have used an xbox 360 controller for the past 2 years.
2007 we used xbox 360 controller, and a guitar hero controller.
2008 we used an xbox 360 controller and a basic button system for the other.

[Dave Flowerday]

Originally Posted by Kakashi1261

we have used an xbox 360 controller for the past 2 years.
2007 we used xbox 360 controller, and a guitar hero controller.
2008 we used an xbox 360 controller and a basic button system for the other.

What Alan is saying is that the Xbox 360 controller is not compatible with the new driver station. If you plug it in you will find that it doesn't work.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Kakashi1261

we have used an xbox 360 controller for the past 2 years.

The Chicklet USB-to-gameport translator has programming that allows it to talk the Xbox 360 controller's language. There are drivers for Windows to do the same thing.

The 2009 FRC Driver Station lacks the necessary driver.

You can use an Xbox 360 controller plugged in to an appropriately-configured Chicklet connected to the analog and digital headers on the side of the Driver Station, and probably get it to work the same way it did last year. I think that's a lot of extra work and wiring, and I think you'd be better off with a standards-compliant HID game controller.

[R.C.]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

The Chicklet USB-to-gameport translator has programming that allows it to talk the Xbox 360 controller's language. There are drivers for Windows to do the same thing.

The 2009 FRC Driver Station lacks the necessary driver.

You can use an Xbox 360 controller plugged in to an appropriately-configured Chicklet connected to the analog and digital headers on the side of the Driver Station, and probably get it to work the same way it did last year. I think that's a lot of extra work and wiring, and I think you'd be better off with a standards-compliant HID game controller.

If anyone can post a tut or a vid of how to do this, our team would appreciate it.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

You can use an Xbox 360 controller plugged in to an appropriately-configured Chicklet connected to the analog and digital headers on the side of the Driver Station, and probably get it to work the same way it did last year. I think that's a lot of extra work and wiring, and I think you'd be better off with a standards-compliant HID game controller.

You'd also have to rig up a boost power supply for the chicklet, as the DS only supplies 5V, but the chicklet wants 7.2-12v and using a battery on the operator console isn't legal this year like it was in the past. I guess you could probably also bypass the regulator on the chicklet. Neither would be trivial to do safetly

Since the chicklet is no longer available, I wonder if it would be legal to use on the operator console in the first place?

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Since the chicklet is no longer available, I wonder if it would be legal to use on the operator console in the first place?

CH Flightsticks were legal in previous years if they were unmodified from their "off the shelf" condition, despite being unavailable for purchase.

The main rule that keeps Chicklets from being used during competition is <R81>, which prohibits "portable computing devices" on anything but the Ethernet ports, with no exceptions.

[nathan.chupp]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

Plug it in to an xbox 360?

Seriously, that controller does not follow the USB HID standard, and is not usable by the 2009 FRC Driver Station.

It dose not work in a 360's it's for my pc..

[popo308]

Originally Posted by nathan.chupp

It dose not work in a 360's it's for my pc..

Any xbox 360 controller that works for the PC should also work for the 360...
Unless you have some weird off-brand controller that looks like a 360 controller but really isn't?

[Blackstarr904]

Could a generic (logitec or something else common) usb gamepad be used in place of the usb joysticks?

Yes they can. We have been using one recently (especially yesterday) and it works AWSOME. It gets some getting used to compared to joystick drive (from what i have seen so far by watching the drive team.. havent been able to test drve this year yet )

[chmp09]

Originally Posted by nathan.chupp

how do i get my xbox 360 control to work????

I don't think you can. It does not use default driver. The basic rule of thumb is if you have to install software to get it to work on a PC, it probably wont work with the DS.

[keehun]

We use a better logitech that has a twist stick and buttons organized in to only one side so buttons are more accessible