pic: The Fighting Rednecks

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by joshsmithers

Back in 07, when our team was re-naming ourselves, I proposed the team name "Hick Town Thunder." (It would be awesome, designing our logo to mimic T3's...) But my idea was easily shot down by the same argument Jane has pushed. To this day, I do not understand how these similiar ideas are offensive to people, especially those who are not rednecks.

I like the logo. I support it because it is funny, clever, and eye-catching. I see nothing wrong with it and cannot understand why anyone would take offense to it, especially if you aren't a redneck. Therefore, the only people who are qualified to say whether this logo is offensive are rednecks. I really hope 2883 will have the guts and confidence to keep this their team name and logo.

Words have meaning. And I'm not just talking about Websters definitions of words, but instead I'm talking about deep personal meanings from our experiences and life.

I am happy that you do not understand why the word 'Redneck' could be offensive, because that means that you have never had reason to be offended by, or be stygmatized as being, one.

We, as a people, need to rise above our biases and our societies biases if we are to grow as a people. Should this team choose this name they will have a lot of work ahead of them to change the culture. I doubt they've thought about that and it really is something they'll need to understand.

To the Fighting Rednecks, I wish you well ... for you are far braver than most of us here, should you stick with that name.

[Team2883]

Hi, our team discussed today over this problem and we came to a conclusion. We decided we are going to change the team name to "F.R.E.D." and that we are going to modify our team logo a bit. Thanks for input on this. This is our final decision.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Team2883

Hi, our team discussed today over this problem and we came to a conclusion. We decided we are going to change the team name to "F.R.E.D." and that we are going to modify our team logo a bit. Thanks for input on this. This is our final decision.

So what does F.R.E.D. stand for?

[TD78]

Originally Posted by EricH

So what does F.R.E.D. stand for?

Fighting REDnecks?

[Collin Fultz]

Originally Posted by Team2883

Hi, our team discussed today over this problem and we came to a conclusion. We decided we are going to change the team name to "F.R.E.D." and that we are going to modify our team logo a bit. Thanks for input on this. This is our final decision.

Don't forget to seriously consider the trademark infringement possiblities, especially if your team uses your logo on ANYTHING which raises money (which is basically everything) as Notre Dame could claim you are using a logo in their likeness to enhance your own visibility (which you basically are). That kind of stuff is way over my head, but rookie teams have enough obsticals to overcome without having to deal with trademark lawyers. Good luck.

[lenny8]

Originally Posted by Team2883

Hi, our team discussed today over this problem and we came to a conclusion. We decided we are going to change the team name to "F.R.E.D." and that we are going to modify our team logo a bit. Thanks for input on this. This is our final decision.

i wish you guys would have stuck with your name.

[F.R.E.D.63]

Im on that team. We all wanted to keep our name the way it was. Our teacher also didn't mind our name. However, as an FRC team we do not plan on changing our name for any of the next years to come. We decided that it would be a waste of time having this argument every year from now on, especially since the seniors would not have to deal with it.

That being said, about half our team consists of farmers. It was a farmer who thought of our original team name. We all supported it. I think it is petty for some people to try and bully us into changing our name. Congratulations, they got your wish. Our name was not meant to be offensive. People had to look pretty hard for it to be that way. People need to learn how to have fun instead of being so absolutely politically correct. I AM A REDNECK. PROUD TO BE SO.

p.s. we will be modifying our logo a bit so it does not infringe on any copyright laws, that argument actually had some merit to it.

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by Team2883

Hi, our team discussed today over this problem and we came to a conclusion. We decided we are going to change the team name to "F.R.E.D." and that we are going to modify our team logo a bit. Thanks for input on this. This is our final decision.

Your name and logo may now be offensive to those with the name Fred. You may want to consider how unfairly stereotyped people named Fred have been in the past.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by F.R.E.D.63

I think it is petty for some people to try and bully us into changing our name. Congratulations, they got your wish. Our name was not meant to be offensive. People had to look pretty hard for it to be that way. People need to learn how to have fun instead of being so absolutely politically correct.

If I was not already aware that my posts in this thread were viewed from a bullying point of view, it was further clarified by some private messages and reps that I received. For that, I am sorry - I did not mean to bully or push even though it came off that way.

The members of the team who created this thread and have posted in this thread have posted with dignity and with respect. And with each post, your team has shown that you are very capable of handling any discussion regarding your team name and sharing who you are with the CD community. I wish FRC 2883, F.R.E.D. formerly known as The Fighting Rednecks, all the best in the 2009 season and in the seasons to come. Sincerely.

Jane

[NorviewsVeteran]

Originally Posted by F.R.E.D.63

Im on that team... I AM A REDNECK. PROUD TO BE SO.

THANK YOU

[Laaba 80]

Originally Posted by F.R.E.D.63

That being said, about half our team consists of farmers. It was a farmer who thought of our original team name. We all supported it. I think it is petty for some people to try and bully us into changing our name. Congratulations, they got your wish. Our name was not meant to be offensive. People had to look pretty hard for it to be that way. People need to learn how to have fun instead of being so absolutely politically correct. I AM A REDNECK. PROUD TO BE SO.

Why do you feel bullied out of your name? If you felt it was not offensive why not keep it? Why would you change your decision because a few people disagreed with it? Dont blame those who may have disliked your name for your decision. Bottom line is anyone on a different team than you has absolutely no influence on your team. I find it petty for you to blame someone else for a decision that is up to your team. There was nothing wrong with presenting a way others could see your name. Did anyone flat out say that you cannot have that name?

Also Im not saying whether or not I liked the name, I just dont like your reaction when someone tries to HELP YOU.

[JVN]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Your name and logo may now be offensive to those with the name Fred. You may want to consider how unfairly stereotyped people named Fred have been in the past.

We're worried we unfairly stereotype "wranglers". In order to be more correct 148 will from henceforth be known as the "RoboPeople".

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by JVN

We're worried we unfairly stereotype "wranglers". In order to be more correct 148 will from henceforth be known as the "RoboPeople".

lmao

Wish you wouldn't have changed the name...after all, like you said, your team does have rednecks! Woot for hard working Americans!

Originally Posted by JVN

We're worried we unfairly stereotype "wranglers". In order to be more correct 148 will from henceforth be known as the "RoboPeople".

...I guess my team might be unfairly stereotyping Dragons. Guess it's time to shift to the 1595 Soap Dishes!

lmao

Wish you wouldn't have changed the name...after all, like you said, your team does have rednecks! Woot for hard working Americans!

Hooah to that.

[Tom Schindler]

Originally Posted by JVN

We're worried we unfairly stereotype "wranglers". In order to be more correct 148 will from henceforth be known as the "RoboPeople".

Warriors might insight someone to believe we are violent. 121 will now be known as the "Rhode Co-operators".

While we're at it, let's all hold hands and sing kumbaya in this amazing utopia.