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[groves]

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[GarrettF2395]

I may be mistaken, but it looks like you are using a 2 wheel drive on this robot?
Do you have something balancing it? Or do you have an extra set of wheels hidden in there somewhere?

[Bertman]

Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.

[groves]

Originally Posted by Teamcap.2395

I may be mistaken, but it looks like you are using a 2 wheel drive on this robot?
Do you have something balancing it? Or do you have an extra set of wheels hidden in there somewhere?

Good eye! I was wondering if anyone would notice. Right now we're testing, but our current configuration is not unlike a segway. The drive platforms are three inches behind our center of gravity. The platforms "crab steer". We still have much testing to work out the exact details.

[AV_guy007]

Originally Posted by Bertman

Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.

If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by AV_guy007

If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.

These Q&As will be relevant:

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread...ghlight=kitbot
http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread...ghlight=kitbot

[EricH]

Originally Posted by AV_guy007

If you are talking about the IFI Kitbot parts they should be fine. The IFI Kitbot is still sold by IFI therefore can be counted as COTS components.

http://www.ifirobotics.com/kitbot.shtml

If there's something else I am missing it may be a different story entirely, but I don't see anything.

You don't want to know what you're missing. See http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11519, http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11564, and http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11616, and you'll understand.

[groves]

Originally Posted by Bertman

Please check the Q&A. It looks to me as if some of your chassis parts may be from last years KOP and may cause some trepidation at technical inspection. I hope I am wrong but better to know sooner than later. Good Luck.

We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by groves

We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.

As in, purchased? Good. (It just looks an awful lot like the IFI Kitbot, or at least the upper part does.)

[groves]

Originally Posted by EricH

As in, purchased? Good. (It just looks an awful lot like the IFI Kitbot, or at least the upper part does.)

Yes, it is an IFI kitbot chassis which is a COTS (consumer off the shelf) item through IFI. Any team can purchase one from here and be within the rules.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by groves

Yes, it is an IFI kitbot chassis which is a COTS (consumer off the shelf) item through IFI. Any team can purchase one from here and be within the rules.

Yes, but did you purchase it, or did you use one from an old KOP? See the links I posted above, especially the last one.

It's a fine point, and I can't say that I necessarily agree with the GDC, but we do have to live with it.

[groves]

Originally Posted by groves

We are indeed in compliance with the rules. The chassis is a consumer off the shelf item, it is not from a previous years KOP.

Yes, purchased COTS item. This is not from previous KOP. do you need to see the receipt? We are completely legal in regards to this kitbot chassis.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by groves

Yes, purchased COTS item not from previous KOP. do you need to see the receipt? We are completely legal in regards to this kitbot chassis.

I don't need to see it. However, the inspectors may choose to ask for it, so keep it handy. (I'm not sure what the inspection protocol is in regards to this.)

I'm just checking.