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[techtiger1]

I will say that the collaboration went really well although as always there was a few set backs. Through our organizational/veteran skills 1902 and 1251 both sat down along with 408 to agree on this design. Meetings were held via video sometimes and in person as the inventor specialists went through each system of the robot mechanically the kids got a chance to ask questions, design on the fly and suggest improvements/ ideas. The teams held multiple conference calls to see what the status of parts, designs, and software where. JVN has a great spreadsheet on balancing deign issues and priorities as well which was referenced too. In short it is a large undertaking to make sure everyone has input on the design and I think everyone is happy with it.

Thanks for your comments on the robots,
Drew

[Dan Richardson]

I have to say having more of a side line role this year was difficult for me but watching these three teams come together and work as well as they did together was very impressive. As video becomes available from the practice robot it will be posted up here and of course we can't wait to see everyone in Florida, Connecticut and ATL.

There is a ton of pictures available courtesy of Mike Walker on the teams website.

[vic burg]

Oh snaps!
Can't wait to see 'em in action next month!

[Lowfategg]

Now that is sweet looking.

[wendymom]

Originally Posted by techtiger1

I will say that the collaboration went really well although as always there was a few set backs. Through our organizational/veteran skills 1902 and 1251 both sat down along with 408 to agree on this design. Meetings were held via video sometimes and in person as the inventor specialists went through each system of the robot mechanically the kids got a chance to ask questions, design on the fly and suggest improvements/ ideas. The teams held multiple conference calls to see what the status of parts, designs, and software where. JVN has a great spreadsheet on balancing deign issues and priorities as well which was referenced too. In short it is a large undertaking to make sure everyone has input on the design and I think everyone is happy with it.

Thanks for your comments on the robots,
Drew

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The other really cool thing was how all three teams ended up working together all weekend at our mentors house. We basically had a huge 3 day slumber party (and you know bacon doesn't sleep) with kids from all three teams working together to get all three machines done. It was hard work, but a lot of fun

[mizscience]

Originally Posted by wendymom

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The other really cool thing was how all three teams ended up working together all weekend at our mentors house. We basically had a huge 3 day slumber party (and you know bacon doesn't sleep) with kids from all three teams working together to get all three machines done. It was hard work, but a lot of fun

It was definitely one of the most intense, but best "weekend[s] before ship day" I've ever experienced.

Cannot wait for Florida Regional to get here! Lucky for me, its right across the street from my dorm - literally!

[Doug Leppard]

As lead 1902 engineering mentor I learned a lot from 1251 and their mechanical abilities. I learned what it was like to CAD it totally before any building, thanks Dave from 1251 for that. Our biggest problem was getting parts back from various machine shops.

It was crazy Friday-Monday with all three teams building all four bots the last three days. The Grajales home was filled with building teams going from driveway, to garage and to pool area with every room filled with people working on various issues.

This was definitely a high school/college mentor build. I seldom touched the bot and mainly coordinated things or did runs to hardware store.

We knew the final testing and especially the software would take longer that is why we built a test bot. Continental Airlines is letting us use a hanger for testing.

We have automatic traction control working but discovered a flaw to be worked out.

Proto type shooter shot 12-14 ft, production shooter had bad gear waiting on the part.

Using camera, but camera has issues as all those worked on them can tell you. The shooter can vary speed thus vary distance. It will be seen later if we can hit a target moving side to side.

The amazing thing to me was how well 408, 1251 and 1902 did together each bringing their strengthens to the table. There was no blowups between the teams even with 15 hour days.

[etgrant69]

I was crunching numbers last night (yes, for fun) and noticed two of these powerhouse teams (1251 & 1902) are in the top 10 most consistant teams attending the Florida Regional in the last 5 years and 1251 is #1! Check out the data posted on our website.


Who is the most consistant team in Florida?

-=Ed=-

[gorrilla]

Originally Posted by etgrant69

I was crunching numbers last night (yes, for fun) and noticed two of these powerhouse teams (1251 & 1902) are in the top 10 most consistant teams attending the Florida Regional in the last 5 years and 1251 is #1! Check out the data posted on our website.


Who is the most consistant team in Florida?

-=Ed=-

wow we're 13th

is the ranking only based on final seeding?

[etgrant69]

Yes, the data is taken from the official FIRST data (linked to by the years) and then averaged by the number of years attending.
(2005+2006+2007+2008+2009)/Years

[1902_Battery_SGT]

[quote=etgrant69;853766]Yes, the data is taken from the official FIRST data (linked to by the years) and then averaged by the number of years attending.
(2005+2006+2007+2008+2009)/Years[/Q

instead of just adding up all the ranks and dividing by the number of years, would it not be more 'accurate' if the lowest and highest rankings where thrown out? That way you could have a more accurate average?

[etgrant69]

[quote=1902_Battery_SGT;853768]

Originally Posted by etgrant69

Yes, the data is taken from the official FIRST data (linked to by the years) and then averaged by the number of years attending.
(2005+2006+2007+2008+2009)/Years[/Q

instead of just adding up all the ranks and dividing by the number of years, would it not be more 'accurate' if the lowest and highest rankings where thrown out? That way you could have a more accurate average?

That's the great thing about metrics, there are alot of ways to evaluate the data.
But, now that you mention it, I'm going to go back and see what the results would be under those conditions.

[David Guzman]

That's pretty cool.

I like to see that we are first, however over the years it has been proven that rankings are not an accurate way to measure a robot's performance/ability. Although I got to admit is still pretty cool to see a collection of data from the past 5 years.

Thanks for putting it together and sharing.

[etgrant69]

Originally Posted by David Guzman

That's pretty cool.

I like to see that we are first, however over the years it has been proven that rankings are not an accurate way to measure a robot's performance/ability. Although I got to admit is still pretty cool to see a collection of data from the past 5 years.

Thanks for putting it together and sharing.

I agree, metrics only show so much. To illustrate that point, our two best years we lost and the 3rd and 4th best years we won. This was all just for fun anyway.
If anyone is interested I uploaded the spread sheet with all the data in it to our site.
http://team1649.com/?p=1292
Look for the link below the data table.

[etgrant69]

[quote=1902_Battery_SGT;853768]

Originally Posted by etgrant69

Yes, the data is taken from the official FIRST data (linked to by the years) and then averaged by the number of years attending.
(2005+2006+2007+2008+2009)/Years[/Q

instead of just adding up all the ranks and dividing by the number of years, would it not be more 'accurate' if the lowest and highest rankings where thrown out? That way you could have a more accurate average?

I doubt this will look right here but here is the revised list based on Scott's suggestion. As you can see it does change the standings with one notable exception. 1251 is still #1.

Team 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Years Avg
1251 16 4 4 3 8
1592 7 9 8 3 8
233 5 2 18 3 8.333333333
79 8 15 6 3 9.666666667
179 13 11 13 3 12.33333333
180 8 23 8 3 13
1649 18 9 13 3 13.33333333
801 23 6 15 3 14.66666667
1341 19 16 15 3 16.66666667
1557 35 12 11 3 19.33333333
1345 10 33 2 21.5
1902 20 24 2 22
1523 32 27 10 3 23
1065 32 14 2 23
108 21 25 26 3 24
386 17 14 44 3 25
744 38 18 2 28
1144 28 28 2 28
945 14 41 30 3 28.33333333
86 21 39 2 30
168 34 35 23 3 30.66666667
408 31 31 2 31
312 37 28 2 32.5
665 47 37 17 3 33.66666667
1543 44 14 43 3 33.66666667
342 40 30 2 35
1029 16 41 49 3 35.33333333
1390 15 43 48 3 35.33333333
21 29 39 47 3 38.33333333
1875 36 46 2 41