Team 461 Website feedback wanted~

[user0]

URL: http://boilerinvasion.org

For those who have previously looked at our page, we are no longer running RoR (Ruby on Rails, a nightmare, if you will). Our emphasis for the website was to make use of dynamic content wherever possible. Dynamic menus, news feeds, content, photos, videos etc... We managed to raise ourselves a php giant. We also wanted to create a website that would be easy to edit from a non programer view-point. As long as the person (subteam leader, teacher, student leader or website member) is logged in, a user may edit content on a page at the click of a button, and edit as if it was a word document. Inserting links and images with incredible ease. Source code view is also available for more experienced users.did i mention we have a pooping bunny within the website somewhere?

So, any visual comments, code comments, any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

[RyanCesiel]

Great content and navigation. The one thing I'm always picky about is the design.

• I'm not a big fan of putting content on a dark background because it's harder to read.
• There's an overdose of inner shadow in the header text.
• Does the header really need West Lafayette High School, IN repeated a thousand times in the background?
• The gradients in your navigation (not the sublinks) should probably not go from black to gold, it just doesn't go well together.
• Add more padding to the left and right of the content.
• Experiment with line-spacing in your paragraphs, may help the reader.

[user0]

I think we have most of your suggestions nailed down. Except for the background, we can't really do much about it at this point in time. Besides it saves power! We added more padding and spacing for each line. How does it look?

[teampronto]

^It doesn't save power unless you use a CRT. Which means you live in 1999.

[ZInventor]

Originally Posted by teampronto

^It doesn't save power unless you use a CRT. Which means you live in 1999.

exactly, the Matrix Has You!!!!!!!!

buts seriously, what self respecting geek doesn;t warm dinner in front of a bank of old crt tubes, or is that just me...

-Z

[teampronto]

Originally Posted by ZInventor

exactly, the Matrix Has You!!!!!!!!

buts seriously, what self respecting geek doesn;t warm dinner in front of a bank of old crt tubes, or is that just me...

-Z

Just you Z

[ZInventor]

Originally Posted by teampronto

Just you Z

really? dang...

well, i don't actually warm dinner in front of them, but i do have a mock matrix feed... and it looks pretty kick $@#$@#$@#...

i'll try to get a good picture, but, as anyone knows, crt's are notoriously hard to photograph...

[RyanCesiel]

Originally Posted by user0

I think we have most of your suggestions nailed down. Except for the background, we can't really do much about it at this point in time. Besides it saves power! We added more padding and spacing for each line. How does it look?

Looks better, I would almost suggest adding even more padding (like 3-5px more) to the left and right.

[user0]

working on it, our graphics designers are getting lazier and lazier as the season goes on.

As for saving power... Our school isn't in the best place for monitors. So we save power...

http://www.blackle.com/

[user0]

Got most of the things you wanted sorted out. Banner will be edited very soon. and user pages will be added tomorrow. Things are looking pretty good. Any more comments?

oh and blackle... google it. Our school isn't that fancy to have LCD yet, we have CRT everywhere

[teampronto]

why would someone google blackle? wouldn't it make more sense to blackle google?

[Theodore Huff]

I wasn't impressed with the navigation when I first looked at it; I am still not. Your content is stellar and all improvements are welcome improvements from the derailment the program had last year.

As for the custom Content Management System that the mentors worked on, it is like recreating the wheel. There are already systems that are free and not completely horrible to use. It wasn't really worth the time invested from my point of view.

Then again, I always have to be critical of 461. Right?

[Kush]

site looks really nice. like the drop down menus and the large volume of content. good job

[user0]

Originally Posted by Theodore Huff

I wasn't impressed with the navigation when I first looked at it; I am still not. Your content is stellar and all improvements are welcome improvements from the derailment the program had last year.

As for the custom Content Management System that the mentors worked on, it is like recreating the wheel. There are already systems that are free and not completely horrible to use. It wasn't really worth the time invested from my point of view.

Then again, I always have to be critical of 461. Right?

Constructive criticism is welcome.

Navigation: What can we do to satisfy you? what do you not like about it? I don't think it's right for me to edit the navigation that we worked on for the season and throw it away just because one or two people said "I don't like it" without explanation.

CMS/Content Management System: Mentors did not do everything, students definitely played a role in the creation of the project. "Reinventing the wheel" hmm... how to word this... There is a sense in pride that you didn't rely on others to do the work for you? (ex. Joomla, wordpress, mediaWiki, drupal, etc) How many teams out there can say they hand coded their entire website using php, and also programmed a content management system that works great, entirely dummy proof...? I think it's awesomely cool, handy, and allows non-programmers a chance at editing the website content. (plus it lightens the load for us website programmers) PHPmyAdmin is a great databse tool.

Any other comments?

[Theodore Huff]

Originally Posted by user0

Constructive criticism is welcome.

Navigation: What can we do to satisfy you? what do you not like about it? I don't think it's right for me to edit the navigation that we worked on for the season and throw it away just because one or two people said "I don't like it" without explanation.

CMS/Content Management System: Mentors did not do everything, students definitely played a role in the creation of the project. "Reinventing the wheel" hmm... how to word this... There is a sense in pride that you didn't rely on others to do the work for you? (ex. Joomla, wordpress, mediaWiki, drupal, etc) How many teams out there can say they hand coded their entire website using php, and also programmed a content management system that works great, entirely dummy proof...? I think it's awesomely cool, handy, and allows non-programmers a chance at editing the website content. (plus it lightens the load for us website programmers) PHPmyAdmin is a great databse tool.

Any other comments?

The navigation, while helpful and noticeable, is semi-limited. When I first checked it out, I navigated to a subpage and had then scrolled over another header link only to find that my sub links were changed as well. It would be nice to be able to move within the same category, if they are always displayed.

I also think your visual style, while everyone loves black, should return to the lighter overall colors you had before. It would look so much better if there was even some sort of gold graphic in the back ground. For a team that stands out at competitions as being bright as the sun, I want to see their website reflect that. Also, don't forget that CAT doesn't want their logo within some unreasonable amount of pixels to other logos. Do what We and Harrison did, just write the name in Impact and change the spacing to about -25. Should look close enough for recognition, but not be the real deal. Our Cat representative said that it was alright.

I think you guys have a great chance for website award based on your content, but I think that a good number of parents judging it may not like the overall appearance and flow.