Pre season competition alliance

[Brandon Holley]

"My ideal alliance would be 2 robots that can just score like crazy, each able to fill a goal in 2 seconds. The 3rd robot would be able to just pin everyone on the other team in the corner and hold them for the whole match. Human players able to consistently score from over 1/2 court, and it would be nice if the team colors of the 3 teams matched"

You can dream cant you?

But in all honesty, you are not necessarily going to have robots at the 1st week regionals capable of all out domination, and forming an ultimate alliance.

In my experience, 1st week regionals require 2 robots that are very ahead of the curve and thats about it to win. I've seen a regional final where 1 of the robots on the winning alliance did not move for the entire match. Uniting 2 teams decently ahead of the curve, and adding a 3rd robot that can at least drive with its head on straight will win a week 1 comp.

[darkember]

I say one power dumper, one shooter, a fridge bot (to store balls), and someone from the NBA would definitly win.

[Ian Curtis]

An alliance captain who knows what's up, a solid first pick to back it up, and a sufficient scouting system to get the diamond in the rough for the 3rd pick.

I'm betting on two high volume robots (dumpers or very fast shooters), and a third partner with average scoring ability, but high manuverability, with a very skilled human player and a very skilled drive team.

[dman14]

1 shooter, 1 dumper, and 1 good PS with a good empty/supercell manipulating robot

[AustinDpOwers89]

i'm going with for week 1, a couple dumpers and a team with a BA human player...

[big1boom]

I'm gonna say, 1 awesome shooter, 2 power dumpers. Drivetrain will be very important this year, and I personally think that the winners will have some form of swerve, or a gyroscope, or a good propeller.

Power dumper by my definition means 15+ balls in 4 seconds, with 1-3 feet of range.

[fredliu168]

3 Squarebots with Lebron James, Chris Paul and Paul Pierce as HP

[AlexD744]

I am just thinking but I beleive an alliance composed of a power shooter, a power dumper and a bot that can vary (meaning it can carry empty cells, and score and pin, when neccasary), with at least 2 bastetball players that have been training. The outpost payload specialist would have to be very alert and understand how each robot works and adapt well, and also have a decent shot in case a robot does not move at the begginning of autonomous. I don't beleive that the third bot should specialize in empty cell running, I beleive it should be able to well but be useful elsewhere when and if neccesary.

$0.02

[nikeairmancurry]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

It's up to you guys to determine what I mean.

For week one:
1. Alexander Ovechkin
2. Mike Green
3. Sean Avery (Donald Brashear or Claude Lemieux also work) with a good human player.

Alternate alliance:
1. Pavel Datsyuk (Henrik Zetterberg if unavailable)
2. Zach Parise
3. Mark Streit

As much as I love this..lol..

I would have to say it depends on the robots at the regional. If there are alot of shooters that arent preforming than, i beleive that its gonna be a dumpers win.

Personally, 2 Dumpers and a really good shooter. I doubt you will ever see 3 shooters unles, 217,1114, 148 hook up at Nationals. heheh

[Akash Rastogi]

Shooter tracking with camera, mass dumper, and tilt/pneumatic dumper

103, 25, and 11

[Diriye]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

It's up to you guys to determine what I mean.

For week one:
1. Alexander Ovechkin
2. Mike Green
3. Sean Avery (Donald Brashear or Claude Lemieux also work) with a good human player.

Alternate alliance:
1. Pavel Datsyuk (Henrik Zetterberg if unavailable)
2. Zach Parise
3. Mark Streit

Week one:
1. A robot that scores unlike anyone else. Dangerous from anywhere on the ice, er, regolith. Just pure domination. Takes care of whiners too.

2. Its main job is to stop other robots from scoring, but is a deadly scorer as well.

3. Makes teams explode with their lack of GP...just kidding.
Makes life miserable for the opponent's top scorer; goads them into making mistakes.

Alternate Alliance
1. Slick scoring machine, but plays a bit of D as well.
2. Complements the top bot by scoring a bunch as well. Has the ability to take over games.
3. Strong defensive bot with a howitzer for a shot (read: quick dumper).

Hmm, not too shabby for a Canuck.
Personally, the alternate alliance seems to be more formidable to me as there are two dangerous scorers on the ice, oops, regolith at the same time.

[flyingcrayons]

many people have been saying that a basketball player would be a good HP... imho, i think that is a terrible choice... if you think about it, a basketbll player always takes a shot at a stationary rim. Even when passing, their teammates aren't moving that much... i think that a quarterback would be the best choice. They are paid to throw balls to recievers who are pn the run. they can throw deep, throw short, and throw it into tight spaces... they can anticipate where the target is going to be, not where it is, and that is why they would make a better HP than a bball player...

summary: McNabb, Brady, Manning (either) > Paul, Bryant, Lebron at being a human player

sorry for the rant, i was on a roll...

[R.C.]

Originally Posted by flyingcrayons

many people have been saying that a basketball player would be a good HP... imho, i think that is a terrible choice... if you think about it, a basketbll player always takes a shot at a stationary rim. Even when passing, their teammates aren't moving that much... i think that a quarterback would be the best choice. They are paid to throw balls to recievers who are pn the run. they can throw deep, throw short, and throw it into tight spaces... they can anticipate where the target is going to be, not where it is, and that is why they would make a better HP than a bball player...

summary: McNabb, Brady, Manning (either) > Paul, Bryant, Lebron at being a human player

sorry for the rant, i was on a roll...

Sorry man gotta disagree here. Even though basketball players shoot at a stationary goal, they put arcs on their shots. On our team we have the varsity football player and a varsity basketball player. The football dude tends to through the ball different and it doesn't work so well. While a trained basketball player can throw the ball with one hand or two hands. Also our basketball player makes a ration of 3:1 compared to the football dude. Also its not very hard adjusting to a slow moving goal.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Diriye

Week one:
1. A robot that scores unlike anyone else. Dangerous from anywhere on the ice, er, regolith. Just pure domination. Takes care of whiners too.

2. Its main job is to stop other robots from scoring, but is a deadly scorer as well.

3. Makes teams explode with their lack of GP...just kidding.
Makes life miserable for the opponent's top scorer; goads them into making mistakes.

Alternate Alliance
1. Slick scoring machine, but plays a bit of D as well.
2. Complements the top bot by scoring a bunch as well. Has the ability to take over games.
3. Strong defensive bot with a howitzer for a shot (read: quick dumper).

Hmm, not too shabby for a Canuck.
Personally, the alternate alliance seems to be more formidable to me as there are two dangerous scorers on the ice, oops, regolith at the same time.

Close for most of them, but not quite right.

[Bob Steele]

if you are looking for the most similarity in throwing I would suggest you talk to some soccer players. The two hand overhead throw, accomplished by someone who knows how to do it, is very accurate and powerful. It can be accomplished at a running target... or stationary...and you can use arc to get over players...

When I was in college one of my teammates could throw more than halfway across the field extremely accurately. It was like getting an extra corner kick when we got a throw in. He did it with a step and close technique..not a running start...

We scored a number of goals off of headers with his accurate and powerful throws...

Talk to your soccer players...