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Re: Predictions on how the games are gonna go!

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3. I predict that if it is finally shown beyond any doubt that the teams which have more time to work on their robots at home, teams that got to pay less to play and the teams that have the resources to build practice robots have a huge competitive advantage over everyone else, that it will force FIRST to get rid of the 6 week build schedule and required robot shipping to events. Yes, I'm saying teams will get to keep their robots, will get to keep working on them and will get to bring them to each event themselves. Those are not the only reasons I think this change will be made - other factors that will result in this major change will be financial savings to FIRST and how much easier/simpler many aspects would be (so many rule debates are based on the shipping and fix it windows, issues like the passionate battery debate would disappear - freeing up time, energy and sanity for mentors, students and the GDC members).

3a. This would also save FedEx money overall, so I'm sure FIRST and FedEx will still ensure donated shipping to/from events for teams not within driving distance of a regional.
I can't imagine that FIRST would EVER get rid of the 6 weeks/ship date. This policy is the only thing that comes close to balancing the early vs late regionals. If you are in the last regional and you don't have to ship, you have a whole extra build season!

As for what we will see in competition?

I'm betting on a lot of cluster and disorganization for longer than in previous years. Since this competition is based more on the robots than the game elements, teams will need to develop strategies for handling different opponents. We will start to see real alliance strategies at the Week 1 elimination rounds after alliances have been formed. As a whole, Lunacy will prove to be a much more unpredictable game than we think and we will be surprised by some truly ingenious alliance strategies (aka Champions.)
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I can't imagine that FIRST would EVER get rid of the 6 weeks/ship date. This policy is the only thing that comes close to balancing the early vs late regionals. If you are in the last regional and you don't have to ship, you have a whole extra build season!
You're forgetting one thing - at any event, no matter where it is during the season/calendar, every team will have had their robots up until that point, so the "build season" for each team is the same as any/all teams they would ever be competing against. Effectively, the build season for every team will be the same - from the kickoff until the end of the last event they compete in that season (if other teams play at a later date, that doesn't matter or impact the finished teams at all).

PS - I'm not saying I'm in favor or not in favor of prediction # 3 (pros and cons both ways), it's just a prediction, that's all.

I agree with Vikesrock about prediction # 2. The only way to really tell will be by looking at those groups of teams as a whole - the perennial top teams and the ones that might not have been as successful the past couple years. What percentage of those teams made the finals at events, how many seeded at the top, how'd they do at events outside of Michigan and so on. If nothing else it'll be a nice statistical analysis that might show something or nothing.
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Re: Predictions on how the games are gonna go!

Jason,
Great points made.
I wont be surprised anymore as FIRST moves forward to making things bigger, better, and more efficient/cost effective. The economy certainly will affect all of us if those things aren't proactively looked at.
From the new control system, to different flooring for a change, to more collaborations amongst teams across the continent, to predictions from "Looking Forward," former students becoming elite mentors of new teams, to expansion to different countries, to the use of Twitter, etc. it makes myself excited year after year, despite the hardships that come with doing such a program.
This whole FIRST thing is a dam-n you do dam-n you dont program.
Some days you want to just take a break from it all, and the next day, you miss it and cant stop thinking about it.

I'd bet that after every regional event, FIRST participants have a hard time sleeping, playing matches in their head over and over and over again.
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