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Unread 25-02-2009, 16:39
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Re: FRC Top 25- Post-Build Ranking

How can you make a post ship list not including a single team that was at the only scrimmage utilizing an official FRC competition field and control system?

Out of 40+ teams at the Suffield Shakedown some of whom have powerhouse reps I would expect to see at least one here...
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Unread 25-02-2009, 17:12
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Re: FRC Top 25- Post-Build Ranking

I would say that his list is about right. Based on previous years achievements and current video/pictures of robots, those standing are accurate. 1114, 258/968, 111, 71 will always be in the top 10 of best robots every year, atleast for "preseason" polls. These teams here ALWAYS build robots, that no matter what their objective is, that compete and WIN. I've been in FIRST the better part of 5 years and those 5 teams there have never failed to build an amazing robot. The reason their in the top 25 now is because they have a background of winning, and beautifully built robots.

If you want to be on the top 25, prove it. Go out there and let your robot do the talking. If your not recognized, so be it. You know your good. Your alliance will be even better when they catch you in the second round of pickings because you fell a few slots to other alliances picking "top 25" teams.

BTW, I disagree, 254 should be number 1
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Re: FRC Top 25- Post-Build Ranking

Making a post-build Top 25 list without seeing half of the robots is like forecasting the weather based on what happened yesterday.

Sure, you might get it right more than half the time (Farmer's Almanac, I'm looking at you!), but it's genuine accuracy should be taken with a fairly large grain of salt until these teams either prove or repudiate their past record for the 2009 season.

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How can you make a post ship list not including a single team that was at the only scrimmage utilizing an official FRC competition field and control system?

Out of 40+ teams at the Suffield Shakedown some of whom have powerhouse reps I would expect to see at least one here...
IMHO, it's better to be a sleeper robot coming into the first Regional competition, because it throws everyone off guard. And since this list is conspicuously absent of any of the powerhouse Northeast teams (including some who've made it onto Einstein more often in the past few years than most of the teams in this list) save 121, I suspect there will be a lot of sleepers this year.
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Re: FRC Top 25- Post-Build Ranking

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And since this list is conspicuously absent of any of the powerhouse Northeast teams (including some who've made it onto Einstein more often in the past few years than most of the teams in this list) save 121, I suspect there will be a lot of sleepers this year.
But Art, all we're good for up here is defense.
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Re: FRC Top 25- Post-Build Ranking

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How can you make a post ship list not including a single team that was at the only scrimmage utilizing an official FRC competition field and control system?

Out of 40+ teams at the Suffield Shakedown some of whom have powerhouse reps I would expect to see at least one here...
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And since this list is conspicuously absent of any of the powerhouse Northeast teams (including some who've made it onto Einstein more often in the past few years than most of the teams in this list) save 121, I suspect there will be a lot of sleepers this year.
The list I submitted included 4 northeastern teams... just because they didn't make the top 25 doesn't mean nobody voted for them.
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The list I submitted included 4 northeastern teams... just because they didn't make the top 25 doesn't mean nobody voted for them.
I had at least one that isn't on the list.
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Re: FRC Top 25- Post-Build Ranking

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And since this list is conspicuously absent of any of the powerhouse Northeast teams (including some who've made it onto Einstein more often in the past few years than most of the teams in this list) save 121, I suspect there will be a lot of sleepers this year.
I noticed that 1124 was absent from the list after taking home a division champion and regional champion trophy. Also, 177 seemed to be missed even though they've been on Einstein the past three years and won it all one of those years.
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Re: FRC Top 25- Post-Build Ranking

TEAM 85= #1
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But Art, all we're good for up here is defense.
Maybe so, but we've also had our fair share of Einstein material the past few years that wouldn't have made it there on defense alone.

173, 175, 176, 177, 190, 195, 1124 all come to mind.
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Hey GODUX123!!!

I always liked your name you guys...very well chosen...

But isn't it BUILT ON BRAINS....?????
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Maybe so, but we've also had our fair share of Einstein material the past few years that wouldn't have made it there on defense alone.

173, 175, 176, 177, 190, 195, 1124 all come to mind.
Haha, maybe it wasn't clear that I was being sarcastic. Obviously I am quite familiar with my own region, so when I said that I was thinking of the rich histories we have in the Northeast (especially if you look in the 170s-190s). I'm guessing that no one who voted came from the New England (or even mid-Atlantic?) region- while all the teams on the list are truly exceptional, they seem to come from a few specific regions. It's hard not to be biased toward your own area, though.
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254 is no. 1 so far in my book.
from what I have seen, they can fill a trailer the fastest, can load well like the rest of the best teams, and drive circles around other robots.

Perhaps it was better that Travis and Kirk worked with Cory in the same shop as opposed to that long distance relationship. God knows what would happen if Dave moved there also.

Prediction: This will be their year, finally.
If 254 ends up with 968 on the same division, I'd bet they pick each other and dominate the floor. That's a sight I only saw once in Hawaii last year and my was it soooo pretty!
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Haha, maybe it wasn't clear that I was being sarcastic. Obviously I am quite familiar with my own region, so when I said that I was thinking of the rich histories we have in the Northeast (especially if you look in the 170s-190s). I'm guessing that no one who voted came from the New England (or even mid-Atlantic?) region- while all the teams on the list are truly exceptional, they seem to come from a few specific regions. It's hard not to be biased toward your own area, though.
I'm from Israel, and i did not put any Israeli team in that list, although i think there is one team deserving to be there.
The reason i did not put any local teams, that i know of is because i thought it won't be fair.
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Re: FRC Top 25- Post-Build Ranking

these are some of the best working robots i have seen so far i might be missing some robots, so sorry if i did not add you to this list

lets see how all the robots perform in the coming weeks

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