pic: 2009 FRC Medals - New Design!

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

I guess they don't care about our feedback....

http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2008...s-in-2009.html


for my .02 I would rather see them choose a game element which doesn't cost $10 each. There are lots of ways to save money it seems funny that they would choose one that affects the teams so much.

I really want to see the numbers released before I judge them more on this decision. Greg, I wasn't surprised that they didn't listen. It seems that FIRST now tends to give us the news on things that have already been decided upon and make it sound like we have a say in it. Oh well.

[smurfgirl]

I actually really like that design, I think it's cooler than years past. The red/blue ribbons don't bother me either. I do wish the old trophies were still around, but I guess I can compromise because the medals are neat! (And saving materials to save money/the environment is a noble cause too, I suppose. )

Originally Posted by 340x4xLife

That's sad.

Does anyone know if the team surveys mentioned in Bill's post have a trophy question included on it? He seems to reference that as a way to legitimize the change.

Yes, they did. I remember this survey, I participated in it last year. The main themes of the survey were about going green and about the possibility of a new tournament structure as FIRST expands. The awards we're seeing this year and the Michigan district competitions appear to be part of the results of this survey.

[A_Reed]

I think the medals themselves look really nice and the idea of the solid ribbons is growing on me (didn't the national chairman's medals used to come in a solid color?).

As for the trophies I recall saying to myself when they were carted out 'where is the second table with the "Big" trophies on it'. It wasn't until they started awarding the Finalist awards did I realize that was it, no big ones. I'm not complaining about the size or anything, I would be honored to be a recipient of any of the trophies FIRST produces to commemorate the efforts of the teams, I was just shock at first sight of them being so small.

All in all no matter how small the trophy they still carry the same meaning and carry with it the same memories of how it was earned through blood, sweat, tears and ultimately Gracious Professionalism.

No matter how small, carry it and yourself with pride!...You DID just WIN!

[Tt321b]

Can someone explain why a team is given two exactly the same trophies when they win one? Wouldn't just giving a team one trophy cut costs by half?

[A_Reed]

Originally Posted by Tt321b

Can someone explain why a team is given two exactly the same trophies when they win one? Wouldn't just giving a team one trophy cut costs by half?

Typically one trophy is given to a team to keep the other is to give to their major sponsor and more can be ordered at the expense of the team after the event.

[Jared Russell]

Originally Posted by A_Reed

Typically one trophy is given to a team to keep the other is to give to their major sponsor and more can be ordered at the expense of the team after the event.

...which strikes me as the first place that FIRST should have looked if they truly wanted to save money. I'll take one awesome trophy over two smaller ones. And if my primary sponsor thinks it's so important that they get a trophy as well, then they can probably afford to buy an extra from FIRST.

[Ryan Dognaux]

Any reason behind not having the sponsor banners at each regional? Buckeye was missing these banners as well and only had the FIRST logo in their places.

Keep the big awards for the Chairman's Award. Having that big trophy is just the coolest thing and the teams who receive the Chairman's Award have earned it.

[Libby K]

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux

Any reason behind not having the sponsor banners at each regional? Buckeye was missing these banners as well and only had the FIRST logo in their places.

Keep the big awards for the Chairman's Award. Having that big trophy is just the coolest thing and the teams who receive the Chairman's Award have earned it.

I get the feeling it's expensive to reprint them every year as the sponsors change.

[waialua359]

I wanted to reiterate that this post doesnt imply that all we care about are medals/trophys, its just the thread topic for discussion as the trophies are smaller than in previous years.
After being in FIRST since 1999, its sort of like tradition, and I guess, sometimes its hard to see changes to something less, DUE to the economy.

Just for the record, I hardly think anyone does it most importantly for trophies. That aint worth it for the time, sweat and tears it takes to run such a program. I (speaking for our team) do it because #1 its FUN!!!!!!!

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Libby K

I get the feeling it's expensive to reprint them every year as the sponsors change.

Didn't the regionals last year have two LCD panels flanking the main screen with sponsors appearing on them?

[R.C.]

Originally Posted by Cory

Didn't the regionals last year have two LCD panels flanking the main screen with sponsors appearing on them?

At San Diego they did, but only one at Davis for some reason

[Chexposito]

I kind of like the new medals. they're not too much and not too little. also anybody notice that the engineering inspiration trophy is the same as the rest. i really haven't noticed it before, but for a trip to atlanta you would think that it would be a decent size. especially considering the second place finalists get a bigger trophy and don't get a trip. also there was no engineering inspiration banner, really surprised me also since it's a trip to atlanta. no complaints just observations

[A_Reed]

Originally Posted by Chexposito

I kind of like the new medals. they're not too much and not too little. also anybody notice that the engineering inspiration trophy is the same as the rest. i really haven't noticed it before, but for a trip to atlanta you would think that it would be a decent size. especially considering the second place finalists get a bigger trophy and don't get a trip. also there was no engineering inspiration banner, really surprised me also since it's a trip to atlanta. no complaints just observations

I don't recall it ever having a banner.

[Chexposito]

Originally Posted by A_Reed

I don't recall it ever having a banner.

i haven't really looked into it but one of our banners on the pit is a website banner... not really as big as engineering inspiration if you ask me.

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by Chexposito

i haven't really looked into it but one of our banners on the pit is a website banner... not really as big as engineering inspiration if you ask me.

It's possible to order banners from FIRST with whatever you want on it (they're $200 each IIRC). To my knowledge, FIRST has never given out banners for any awards other than Champions and Chairman's.