Team 2108 Video!! Powerful Shooter

[pentau]

Wow that looks really cool. How well does your shooter perform with moving trailers?

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by VanMan

We won't have trouble with any dumpers. We have a secret plan along with our drivers that are great at escape moves. I find it hard to believe that dumpers will be an issue for us.

I'll believe it when I see it. I have a feeling you'll be eating your words if you ever come across a dumper like 45, 71, 121 or 1625.

I like the shooter design, very unique. A big plus I see with this design is it prevents broken balls from affecting the accuracy of your shooter.

IMO, and I think the Week 1 regionals have shown this to be true, rate of fire = robot effectiveness, plain and simple. This is why dumpers have tended to be on top. How fast does your system shoot, say, 10 balls? You said speed up times are not an issue short range, but long range you need a "not noticeable" amount of time to get back to the right speed. I'm just wondering what the difference in rate of fire is for you at close range as opposed to long range. Again, if you have numbers I find those much more credible than subjective claims. A video of shooting 7+ balls in a row would be nice (much like 100, 148 and 254 have done).

And any video footage of camera tracking accuracy from 40+ feet? Thats a feat I would tip my hat to if I saw it.

Sorry for the long post, I would just appreciate backed up claims as opposed to hype. On all accounts though, please prove me wrong and blow my mind with how dominant your bot ends up being. Thats really what I would like to see. In any case, congratulations on a very unique design that I'm sure will serve you well in competition, good luck!

[Chexposito]

Originally Posted by VanMan

The drive isn't too sensitive. In the video was when we were testing it and we were using different code and different drivers. Our drivers are great with the drive. Our turret does move. It is on a 180 degree turret. Thanks for the input.

do you guys have any setting with your camera? you might want to look into having a laptop as part as your driver station (you can apparently have a video output only this way though (legally)) so you can have the turret driver aim at the target. to help him a gyro to keep it pointed in the same direction the the turret driver moves it to would be useful, so your drivers aren't fighting each other in the middle of a match. (if you've ever played halo 3 and have been in the warthog turret, same concept). robot tracking has looked nice on some, but it can be bad. that's why i suggest using the laptop.

[wilsonmw04]

Originally Posted by Chexposito

they turned out to be dud's because they where only good for empty cell delivery. not as glamorous as it seems. good luck though.

I think robots who are good at empty cell delivery and are capable of playing D will be great 3rd picks this year. To me, that's pretty darned glamorous.

[Chexposito]

Originally Posted by wilsonmw04

I think robots who are good at empty cell delivery and are capable of playing D will be great 3rd picks this year. To me, that's pretty darned glamorous.

the long shot we had, had no decent drive train, so besides not being able to stay in front of the outpost, it just became a target for other robots.

[thefro526]

That Shooter is definitely sweet and well built. I don't think you'll have any mechanical issues with hitting a target from more than 25 feet away, but I think you'll have a practical problem.

In Lunacy thus far, we've seen that most scoring action from shooters and dumpers a like has been at short range. I think you'll notice that too and play a much closer shooting game than you think. I doubt you'll have any issues shooting at the sub-5ft range, if anything that turret will give you a substantial advantage. But then again, it'll be nice when you guys can bust out with a match winning Hail Mary Shot or two.

So, don't let the CD discussion get you down. I think you'll do fine out there.

[Laaba 80]

Originally Posted by Chexposito

do you guys have any setting with your camera? you might want to look into having a laptop as part as your driver station (you can apparently have a video output only this way though (legally)) so you can have the turret driver aim at the target. to help him a gyro to keep it pointed in the same direction the the turret driver moves it to would be useful, so your drivers aren't fighting each other in the middle of a match. (if you've ever played halo 3 and have been in the warthog turret, same concept). robot tracking has looked nice on some, but it can be bad. that's why i suggest using the laptop.

Has anyone tried doing this at a week 1 regional? I have heard that the Driver Station will not have enough speed to process the videoat a helpful rate. Now I know that the DS can process it fine, however the competition ports will not allow for enough speed.

[pacoliketaco]

Originally Posted by Laaba 80

Has anyone tried doing this at a week 1 regional? I have heard that the Driver Station will not have enough speed to process the videoat a helpful rate. Now I know that the DS can process it fine, however the competition ports will not allow for enough speed.

After competing in the NJ regional, i can say that: part of the inspection is asking you if you have setup to do this, as it is completely illegal. i think the reasoning was that FIRST was worried that it would take up too much bandwidth, and prevent driver communication with the robots.

That being said, part of our control system was a Q1 tablet pc, which is used to display sensor and motor readings, to aid us in driving. The inspector was sure to ask that we did not try to send live video, only values.

[VanMan]

I think we decided that live video feed would not really be helpful anyways because there would be too much delay.

[Creator Mat]

wow great design and good bot

It is truly a small world by the way. I was going to Salem Middle school in Apex and would have gone to Apex High before i moved up north to Illinois. I am glad to see that i might have still been on a FRC team if i had not moved.

[VanMan]

Originally Posted by Creator Mat

wow great design and good bot

It is truly a small world by the way. I was going to Salem Middle school in Apex and would have gone to Apex High before i moved up north to Illinois. I am glad to see that i might have still been on a FRC team if i had not moved.

Very cool. We have a student from Apex high on the team. He is the valedictorian there, and he found out about the team because he used to go to our school. NC doesn't have too many teams yet but we are working on it.

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by pacoliketaco

part of the inspection is asking you if you have setup to do this, as it is completely illegal.

That's simply not true. It's not on the inspection checklist, and the Q&A has confirmed that it is legal, though potentially not practical. It's always a good idea to be armed with the rules in case an inspector or referee tries to tell you something different.

[Crump]

if you guys don't win a design award... i don't know who will... bot looks great and i really wanna see this thing play!

[amariealbrecht]

wow...very cool and inventive design!
I really like the wheels that you used on your shooter, very clever. Hope you all do well wherever you compete!
Best of luck

[Ian Curtis]

Originally Posted by Laaba 80

Has anyone tried doing this at a week 1 regional? I have heard that the Driver Station will not have enough speed to process the videoat a helpful rate. Now I know that the DS can process it fine, however the competition ports will not allow for enough speed.

Yup. The Force Team (1073) had a laptop set up next to their operator's controls that was definitely playing video live from the camera. I don't know anything about the Axis camera, but the video was in odd colors, but you could certainly make out the shapes of the goals and robots. It wasn't a fantastic frame rate, but it was definitely updating a couple of times a second.