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How many people are scouting each match on your team?

Just wondering how many people are actively scouting & filling out data at your events on your team.

Do you have one person scouting per team for a total of 6 people?
Do you have one per Robot & one per Payload Specialist for a total of 12 people?

More people scouting?
Less people scouting?

If you have less than the 12 or 6 people for reasons mentioned above, what are you focusing on while scouting?

Just wondering.

The reason I'm asking is because I'm working on developing an effective scouting system (in theory) to have less than the 12 people scouting a match (which we think is the ideal number of people scouting each match) since we just don't have that many people available this year.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

12, one for each bot and human player, 6 with laptops entering data
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

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Just wondering how many people are actively scouting & filling out data at your events on your team.

Do you have one person scouting per team for a total of 6 people?
Do you have one per Robot & one per Payload Specialist for a total of 12 people?

More people scouting?
Less people scouting?

If you have less than the 12 or 6 people for reasons mentioned above, what are you focusing on while scouting?

Just wondering.

The reason I'm asking is because I'm working on developing an effective scouting system (in theory) to have less than the 12 people scouting a match (which we think is the ideal number of people scouting each match) since we just don't have that many people available this year.
Considering that we have 14 people on the team, and not all could make the regional ... we have 3 on our scout team.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

We only had 7 on our team at the NJ Regional this year and 2 were scouters with the help of one of our teachers with a laptop entering data
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

I would imagine this answer is subjective highly subjective on what you are looking for in a partner and what you think your strong and weak points of your robot.

If you widdle your criteria down and you are looking for some very specific things I have been part of teams that have effectively scouted a regional with 2-3 people.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

We usually had 13 people scouting with up to 7 laptops, but then again, the people did come from 3 or 4 different teams at Buckeye (1 person and 1 laptop was the compiling laptop). Teams involved included 461, 829, 1646, and 1747.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

1519 had 11 people. One entered info. from our scouting sheets onto a laptop, one filled an index cards with information for our drive team for their next match, one handed out the sheets and organized everyone. 2-3 scouted human players while 6 scouted bots. And their were several others who switched out to give others breaks.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

We tried having 2 people scout each team during a match. One would follow the HP and one would follow the Robot. We found this worked pretty well and they gathered a lot of good and Useful info. We probably could've gotten decent results with 1 scout per team but they probably would've focused on the Robot.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

Team 234 uses 15 students to scout. 6 watch HPs and keep track of shots made vs. shots attempted on paper. 6 track robots and trailers on PDAs linked via bluetooth to a laptop. 1 student keeps the HP papers organized. 2 students work with a laptop to compile all of the data, as well as watching the matches from a "wholistic" view.

When everything is done we have pretty good data on every team including robot shots made vs. shots attempted, HP shots made vs. shots attempted, average balls in own trailer, as well as some "subjective" data on each robot.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

I think we are going to go with 1 per robot and 1 specifically taking notes on all human players. It is hard enough to always know the number of the robots and identifying the human players is going to be harder I imagine. The human player data will be important, but secondary to robot performance I think. How many teams switch their human players during an event?
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

We are scouting with 12 per match..
We share our data with any teams that want to look at it or use it.
We would love to have some other teams help us gather it..
If anyone is interested in helping out... please let us know

We will be in Portland and Seattle...

Just look for Team 1983 (The Skunkworks..)
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We would love to make friends and we could sure use some help...

Even if you don't help you can share in the data gathered. Just stop by our systems integration group in the stands... and we can give you what you need.

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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

Due to my small team we were only able to have one person going around talking to teams and one taking notes in the stands but we had 4 people there
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

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I think we are going to go with 1 per robot and 1 specifically taking notes on all human players. It is hard enough to always know the number of the robots and identifying the human players is going to be harder I imagine. The human player data will be important, but secondary to robot performance I think. How many teams switch their human players during an event?
Enough to make it noticeable. We noticed a few teams that had highly variable human player performance. When we checked our pit scouting sheets, sure enough they switched out human players.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

We are hopefully having 12 scouts per match, one for watching human player and one for the robot.

To get enough people to do this, we are working together with another team.
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Re: How many people are scouting each match on your team?

Wow it must be great to have enough people on your team to do this. We didn't have anyone on our team exclusively assigned to scouting at our last regional but Da Bears were gracious enough to help us out with that! Their scout knew something about every team/robot attending.
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