2009 High Scores

[Gaurav27]

WEEK 1
Midwest:
Qualification 29: 151

WEEK 2
Finger Lakes:
Final Match 2: 131

WEEK 3
MI - Cass Tech:
Qualification 42: 139

Any Predictions for Future High Scores?

[hillale]

I'm betting the 151 score won't be broken until Champs, if it is. I'm still amazed that it happened at a Week 1 Regional. Midwest would be the place for it though... that was some sick competition.

ps: 151 was with a 10 point penalty

[Mr. Lim]

1) The standing 151 from Midwest goes untouched this week.

2) Bold(?) Prediction: 151 is surpassed in Week 5 at GTR. 1114 or 1503 is involved in the match, and at least two super cells are scored by the high-scoring alliance.

3) All high scores this year will be scrutinized with no concrete resolution on their validity. Videos (if available) will be reviewed, but the EXACT score will never be 100% confirmed by the CD community or anyone else for that matter. All high scores from this year will be "debatable," with a certain amount of skepticism about whether the alliance "actually got that score."

[RMiller]

Originally Posted by SlimBoJones

3) All high scores this year will be scrutinized with no concrete resolution on their validity. Videos (if available) will be reviewed, but the EXACT score will never be 100% confirmed by the CD community or anyone else for that matter. All high scores from this year will be "debatable," with a certain amount of skepticism about whether the alliance "actually got that score."

I am curious as to why you think this. As far as I know, after each match, the scoring volunteers count the number of balls in each trailer to confirm or change the number they had in the system.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by RMiller

I am curious as to why you think this. As far as I know, after each match, the scoring volunteers count the number of balls in each trailer to confirm or change the number they had in the system.

True. Every scorer is assigned to a trailer. After each match, each scorer unloads the trailer that he/she scored, counting all the way. They then confirm/update their scores.

At least, that's how L.A. worked.

The only reason I can see for a score to be debatable would be penalties, and those are usually pretty accurate

Or are you thinking of the FMS/control system?

[Mrashes]

I'm thinking Michigan State Competition will surpass the 151 point match, that schould be a kick butt competition

[prettycolors91]

Originally Posted by Mrashes

I'm thinking Michigan State Competition will surpass the 151 point match, that schould be a kick butt competition

It's a possibility. I'm not quite sure what to expect out of the Michigan State Competition...all I know is that it's going to be pretty intense!

[eschanz]

one score at traverse city I think was 2: 137

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Mrashes

I'm thinking Michigan State Competition will surpass the 151 point match, that schould be a kick butt competition

I'm not so sure. If you look at many (not all) of the high scores they not only involved great teams scoring the points, but opponents who were barely functional. Still trailers, lacking autonomous, and other similar featuers help to increase scores dramatically.
There will be many fewer "dead weight" bots at the Michigan State Championship, since each and every team has to earn their way there.

TOTAL HIGH SCORES:

Week 1:
DC, QF1-1: 226
Red Alliance 126- Blue Alliance 100

Week 2:
ROC, QF3-1: 175
Red Alliance 83 - Blue Alliance 92

Week 3:
SJ, SF1-2: 177
Red Alliance 108 - Blue Alliance 69

Sadly, I don't think we'll see more than 2 or 3 other matches where both alliances break 100 all season.

[Gaurav27]

Originally Posted by eschanz

one score at traverse city I think was 2: 137

Highest Score @ Traverse City was 108 in Qualification 48

[Tim Baird]

Originally Posted by RMiller

As far as I know, after each match, the scoring volunteers count the number of balls in each trailer to confirm or change the number they had in the system.

This is exactly how it'll work. Granted, nobody's perfect, so you might see a match here and there where it'll be +/- a ball, but for the most part we should now see accurate scores.

However, the live score will most likely NEVER be accurate after the first 30 seconds or so. Do not rely on the live score on the screen. Score your hardest, remind your outpost HPs to watch their fingers... and hope for the best.

[chmp09]

I think we will see less of the 130 and up scores. As the year goes on, I think defense will start playing a larger roll. Also, at states and nationals, there probably won't be any open trailers as there have been early on. As the robots get better, it becomes harder to score.

[Herodotus]

Originally Posted by chmp09

I think we will see less of the 130 and up scores. As the year goes on, I think defense will start playing a larger roll. Also, at states and nationals, there probably won't be any open trailers as there have been early on. As the robots get better, it becomes harder to score.

I agree with this sentiment. AS this competition goes on I think the scores will actually go down, unlike usual. This has an interesting implication if it proves to be true. As scores go down it becomes easier to get a G14, and so alliances that rely on super cells might have a harder time over all.

Can't say anything for certain, but it's an interesting thought.

[GGCO]

I totally agree that the scores will become lower. It doesn't surprise me that the 151 score was in week one, because that is when no one is really playing defense. All the robots that are bad realize that, and their goal in each match is to shutdown the good robots.

I also think that the difference between the two alliances will decrease dramatically in Atlanta.

[J_Greco]

Originally Posted by Herodotus

AS this competition goes on I think the scores will actually go down, unlike usual.

Yes, it appears as though defense and good driving are much more effective in preventing high scoring than in previous years. This seems primarily due to the fact that the goal is actively moved by the robots.
This is a stark contrast with Overdrive, in which almost no defense was permitted.
I believe that maneuverability of a robot is crucial this year, and at events like the MI states and Champs, robots will be much more maneuverable and it will take a lot more driving skill to effectively pin and score on a trialer.

On that note, it is very likely that the scores will continue to decrease as the season progresses, so 151 will probably be the year's high score.