Peachtree flip

[santosh]

honestly, one of the reasons we were ranked so low (43/47) was because we had small issues that killed us. Once we got into the playoffs as the number 8 seed we got everything working.
And yes scouting is very important. there have been years where our robot wasnt great at the time but due to luck we were able to be the 6th seed at a large regional (VCU 2004)

[hipsterjr]

Rank is base in some part to just how lucky you get in you alliance pairings. I watched 1319 all weekend and saw them struggle in stacked matches. They were mid-pack, but my first pick. Once they had a functioning alliance, they really shined. 7 vs 8 is rare, but very intertaining to watch.

[BenX02]

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56

One of the other things that happened at peachtree was one of the 2 scoring robots on the #1 alliance was broken for 3 out of the 4 matches we played. It is near impossible to win this year with a nonfunctioning alliance partner particularly in the elimination rounds. The one match that all of our robots were working, we won 70 something to 30 something invoking a G14.

Hey, hey, hey. We beat you guys with pure skill. Proof:

Otto broke at the very end of the first match, we won. Second match got restarted. Third match our robot didn't work at all, Otto was, and we still tied you. Fourth we lost badly, I have no excuse for that. Fifth, Otto didn't work at all and we beat you.

I think it seems pretty even to me.

Originally Posted by santosh

honestly, one of the reasons we were ranked so low (43/47) was because we had small issues that killed us. Once we got into the playoffs as the number 8 seed we got everything working.
And yes scouting is very important. there have been years where our robot wasnt great at the time but due to luck we were able to be the 6th seed at a large regional (VCU 2004)

We would have been first seed if our drivers station didn't break, and we had good alliance parters against 1764 and Flash.

I'm glad it worked out how it did though, otherwise we probably would have not ended up in an alliance with you guys.

[sdcantrell56]

Originally Posted by BenX02

Otto broke at the very end of the first match, we won. Second match got restarted. Third match our robot didn't work at all, Otto was, and we still tied you. Fourth we lost badly, I have no excuse for that. Fifth, Otto didn't work at all and we beat you.

I think it seems pretty even to me.

Lets clarify this further. Otto was broken the entire time in the first match. I am almost positive that they snapped there chain when 547 ran full speed into the side of them. I dont see any other reasonable explanation for snapping #35 chain in this years game. The third match otto also was not working as they had forgotten to put on a chain tensioner in their speedy repair and the chain popped off again. The only match that otto functioned in was the fourth match and they were functioning in the 2nd match before it was reset.

Things like this happen and you guys did a good job of putting together a strategy and making it work. Congratulations on the win and I enjoyed chatting with you guys before matches. I just wanted to throw out a possible explanation for the so called "flip" at peachtree.

[BenX02]

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56

Lets clarify this further. Otto was broken the entire time in the first match. I am almost positive that they snapped there chain when 547 ran full speed into the side of them. I dont see any other reasonable explanation for snapping #35 chain in this years game. The third match otto also was not working as they had forgotten to put on a chain tensioner in their speedy repair and the chain popped off again. The only match that otto functioned in was the fourth match and they were functioning in the 2nd match before it was reset.

Things like this happen and you guys did a good job of putting together a strategy and making it work. Congratulations on the win and I enjoyed chatting with you guys before matches. I just wanted to throw out a possible explanation for the so called "flip" at peachtree.

I guess I might be wrong. I was just pointing out that we didn't win because of luck.

I hope to see you guys at the Championships.

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by BenX02

I guess I might be wrong. I was just pointing out that we didn't win because of luck.

I hope to see you guys at the Championships.

dont say that. b/c everytime anybody wins, it takes some degree of good fortune

[RMS11]

Originally Posted by cziggy343

dont say that. b/c everytime anybody wins, it takes some degree of good fortune

And some degree of skill, especially when you are playing 2 of 3.

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by RMS11

And some degree of skill, especially when you are playing 2 of 3.

so note my wording, SOME degree of good fortune. im not discrediting the skill needed. it takes both.

[BenX02]

Originally Posted by cziggy343

dont say that. b/c everytime anybody wins, it takes some degree of good fortune

Yeah, what I meant was, completely because of good luck.

[ebarker]

Originally Posted by BenX02

Yeah, what I meant was, completely because of good luck.

definition:
luck - the intersection of preparation and opportunity

[BenX02]

Originally Posted by ebarker

definition:
luck - the intersection of preparation and opportunity

Okay... um. Maybe luck wasn't the right word to use then?

You guys are making me feel stupid.

[Andrew Y.]

100% agree with mr. Barker. The way to win the game is preparation, confidence, and experience.

We placed 43/47 because of "shortcuts" during build. After it was sorted out we realized the drivers needed more time together. We gave them a solid 3 hours on the practice field friday. So in a sense you could say we had "bad luck"

Friday night, the kids spent 4 hours scouting ALL the teams. They also spent another hour or two talking about the ideal strategy for this game. That strategy was put in to effect. The strategy worked, and their preparation payed off.

I dont think it was anyones intentions, but let me warn you on how this thread is starting to sound.
"the 8th alliance beat the 1st alliance by luck. We should have won"
just a warning guys, watch your choice of words....

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by BenX02

I guess I might be wrong. I was just pointing out that we didn't win because of luck.

I hope to see you guys at the Championships.

There's nothing to be ashamed about winning if you're opponents break. It's part of the game. The alliance with the fewest mechanical problems is often the one that emerges victorious. It takes a lot more than just execution on the field to win a Championship at any level.
Even the greatest of coaches and teams will agree with me on this one.