[YMTC]: [YMTC] A Precarious Placement

[Chris is me]

I don't see how this is any different than a ball being thrown in a full trailer. There's really no question that a ball on the top of a goal is in a "tenuous placement" (after all, it's happened in a tiny percentage of games), and thus if it gets knocked off it's not a descoring penalty. It's so tenuous that turning sharply will make it fall.

It seems like the textbook "tenuous position" is on top of the post.

On a related note, I wanna see a Supercell count while resting on top of a post.

[bduddy]

There should not be, and I don't believe there is, a penalty for inadvertent actions like this. Also, there will be no score-there was a little conversation about something like this at St. Louis, although it never actually happened.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

<G25.1> De-scoring GAME PIECES – Once a GAME PIECE has been SCORED, it may not be intentionally de-scored (e.g. removed from the TRAILER). De-scoring a GAME PIECE will cause a PENALTY to be assigned. At the end of the match, any intentionally de-scored GAME PIECES will be considered SCORED as originally placed. GAME PIECES that are knocked free from tenuous placements as a result of normal game interactions (e.g. a GAME PIECE on top of a pile of MOON ROCKS that completely fill a TRAILER falls off when the TRAILER is bumped) will not be penalized.

1> Because the teams are not 'intentionally' de-scoreing and the ball leaves it's trailer due to it's tenuous placement, there is no penalty.

G07> Scores are determined based on the state of the GAME PIECES at the end of the MATCH.
Scores will be assessed after all objects in motion when the arena timer displays zero seconds come to rest.

2> Because the ball is not in the trailer at the end of the match, it is not scored.

JMHO

[EricH]

No, it counts. It is fully supported by the trailer. See the definition of SCORED. The trailer does include the vision target.

By the definition you're using (in the trailer), any moon rock that was on top of a pile of balls in the trailer to the point that it was completely outside the poles would not be scored.

So, here's my scoring analysis:
On the pole: scored, but in a tenuous position.
Knocked off the top of the pole during a match: no longer scored, but no descoring penalty due to tenuous position invoking <G25.1>.