Update #19

[waialua359]

Bob,
I would guess the same from '07 and prior for recent years.
Thanks for the summary. I almost forgot about the whole Tornado incident and adjusted pit setup last year.

-Glenn

[artdutra04]

Originally Posted by waialua359

Bob,
I would guess the same from '07 and prior for recent years.
Thanks for the summary. I almost forgot about the whole Tornado incident and adjusted pit setup last year.

-Glenn

Yeah, up until 2007 these were always the rules in place.

Although there is one "rule" that FIRST never seems to mention anywhere until teams get to the event, and that's to always keep all carts, dollies, totes, etc. on the plastic they lay on the floor in the GWCC lobby.

This isn't a FIRST rule, but a venue rule from the GWCC, which they claim is to "protect their carpet". Yet if you pay attention, you'll see the venue staff drive Cushmans on the carpet all day long...

Regardless of the hypocrisy, just follow the rule. If you don't, and if volunteers don't catch it, the venue staff like to yell at the volunteers.

[Anne Shade]

This is different than the Essential Information directions posted on the Championship page since that mentions the same one cart procedure from last year. We were already starting to figure out how we were going to put our rolling tool box on a cart... Glad we don't have to worry about it but I hope that everyone at FIRST is on the same page since the two documents don't match up.

[GaryVoshol]

The rules in the manual always take priority, unless someone in authority hasn't read those rules. I would suggest that a team mentor ask a specific Q&A on the bullet point "There is no set limit to the amount of material teams may load-in, but it must be done in a safe and manageable way (Safety Advisors and other volunteers will be on site checking for, and helping mitigate, unsafe conditions)." Does "no set limit" include the mechanism for moving in the material, or only the material itself?

I would note that the "Essentials" document is not entirely up to date with all the rules. For example it references the Robo-Coach, which we only had last year. There are also inconsistencies: In the uncrating section one place it mentions 3 team members and a few lines later it mentions 1 mentor and 4 team members.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Does "no set limit" include the mechanism for moving in the material, or only the material itself?

The question makes no sense. An explicit lack of limit doesn't "include" anything.

I say focus on the "safe and manageable" phrase and you should be fine.

[Anne Shade]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

The rules in the manual always take priority, unless someone in authority hasn't read those rules.

Gary,

That is exactly my concern. Just because the update came out, it doesn't mean that all factions of FIRST headquarters is on the same page of the Essential Information document would communicate the same information. Just the same as some teams may only read the Essential Information document, so could FIRST staff and volunteers. It would be much easier if all documentation said the same thing.

[GaryVoshol]

There's a new Essentials document posted, see email blast http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...729#post841729

The load-in procedures now agree with the revised manual per Update 19.