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Re: [FTC]: Email Blast: FIELD MANAGEMENT FORMAT FOR FTC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

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I was at the Florida Regional and they already implemented this "each team uses their own computer" rule.
I'll comment that it ran very smoothly. The amount of delay per match was down to just putting the robots down and that was something to marvel.
In all my matches, i never saw one person push the start button too early or too late. While this won't necessarily be the case in all situations, i'm just noting that people's reaction speed and honesty are to be trusted.
Could you tell us more about thie method as implemented in Florida.

How many teams and fields were involved?

How far were the pits from the playing fields? I.E. Did you have to carry the laptops and game controllers around very far?

Were there tables for the laptops?

Was the laptop run by the coach(on the field)? If so did it take much of his/her time, effort concentration? I am concerned because our coach is a student and heavily involved in directing the drive team.

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Re: [FTC]: Email Blast: FIELD MANAGEMENT FORMAT FOR FTC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

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Could you tell us more about thie method as implemented in Florida.

How many teams and fields were involved?

How far were the pits from the playing fields? I.E. Did you have to carry the laptops and game controllers around very far?

Were there tables for the laptops?

Was the laptop run by the coach(on the field)? If so did it take much of his/her time, effort concentration? I am concerned because our coach is a student and heavily involved in directing the drive team.

Thanks,
24 teams. 2 fields.
Pits were in the rooms adjacent to the field. It was a 30 second walk if that.
Yes, there were tables for the laptops.
Yes, the laptop was run by the 3rd person, the coach. My coach was also a student that acts as "strategist". All you have to do is press a button at the beginning of autonomous and then at the beginning of teleop. There isnt any focus on the computer after you hit the button.
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Re: [FTC]: Email Blast: FIELD MANAGEMENT FORMAT FOR FTC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

I totally agree with HUmar104 on that. I was an assistant FTA at Florida and it went perfectly. All matches on time, no field "problems" nor complaints. Each team had control of their own situation with pairing and couldn't blame the FMS for anything. For those teams that had problems with their FMS, there was one one field that could be used.

For Championships, and transporting from the pits in the GWCC to the Dome, I recommend getting something like a rolling cart (see http://www.target.com/3-Tier-Rolling...%20cart&page=1 for an example). Something that can carry your laptop and the robot and possibly a small tool box for carrying zip ties, batteries and the like.

As for the coach, he just had to push the button (Start/Continue) twice. And then he could help the team with the strategy during driver control. There was power for the laptops on the field (which FIRST will provide at Championships as well). There was never a problem with the coaches not hitting the button at the wrong time.

This option will be great for all teams in getting them on the field and playing all their matches on time. Hopefully, we will get more than 5 matches per team, but I haven't heard what that will be.
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Re: [FTC]: Email Blast: FIELD MANAGEMENT FORMAT FOR FTC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

As emmell said, those rolling carts are very useful at the internationals. With the long walk from the pit area to the field, you will grow tired of carrying the robot (and now laptop) and whatever spares you might need at the field. We got one for last years internationals and just made everything move much easier for our team, especially during the eliminations when we couldn't get back and forth between the field and the pits for extra parts.

The test case of Florida certainly makes the concept look like it will work very well. I didn't hear of many problems at all from Florida, so I am optimistic about the FMS format for Atlanta. I am just worried about having so many robots running at once, we will see how the bluetooth will run with so many active connections. Hopefully everything will run as smoothly as it did in Florida .
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Re: [FTC]: Email Blast: FIELD MANAGEMENT FORMAT FOR FTC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

i got tired of carrying the robot 20 feet from the pits to the field at the GA tournament, so I'm sure world will definitely be a pain without a cart.
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The walk from the pits last year to the field was a good 5-10 minutes depending on which route you took. Doing that several times a day will get a little long and you will love the cart by the end of the tournament. I know we really loved having the cart. Now with the robot, laptop, parts.... its all going to add up
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