Disbanded Teams

[jamie_1930]

This year team 1930, Rush Henrietta, New York, had a huge delay when our teacher was laid off, and because of this the seven remaining team members had teamed up with Team 2228 , Honeoye Falls-Lima, New York. After some deliberation with my fellow team mate, from 1930 and 2228, we've decided to "merge" the two and have everyone from team 1930 permanetly join 2228. This has of course caused a as forseen now permanent disband of 1930. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this happen to them, are there any teams that have disbanded since FIRST's inseption?

[Nawaid Ladak]

I know my team (1402, then 1694 a year after) disbanded. well i like to perfer it as "folded"

our school sponcor left and we were stuck with no structure. because all the tools were property of the schol.

Some of us went to help out area teams (1065, 1694, 945)

Mainly the students have all graduated, or are graduating this year (the old students that were from 1402, the students form 1694 graduate next year.). But the mentors, and alumni are sill active or are willing to be active in the program (945, 425, 2391)

[EricH]

Team 64 disbanded into teams 39 and 1013.

Team 22 disbanded into team 4, though that one wasn't nearly as nice.

[bigbeezy]

many teams fold over time. and some , 1889 is a good example, take a year off and are able to come back strong. I remember my rookie year seeing tons of rookies at florida, now only a handfull of us are left. some teams that were struggling just cant take it anymore and fold, some lose sponsors, mentors, advisors. some great teams even fold. I know some teams who have been rather dependant on the NASA grant due to lack of sponsors in their area have it tough after their 2nd year when they are no longer eligable for the grant. (If my info about that is incorrect i'm sorry) its sad but true.

[gorrilla]

186 and 762 folded and one of their mentors formed 1557(us)

EDIT: its 762 not 742.....

[jamie_1930]

Originally Posted by bigbeezy

many teams fold over time. and some , 1889 is a good example, take a year off and are able to come back strong. I remember my rookie year seeing tons of rookies at florida, now only a handfull of us are left. some teams that were struggling just cant take it anymore and fold, some lose sponsors, mentors, advisors. some great teams even fold. I know some teams who have been rather dependant on the NASA grant due to lack of sponsors in their area have it tough after their 2nd year when they are no longer eligable for the grant. (If my info about that is incorrect i'm sorry) its sad but true.

The Rush-Henrietta school district tried to do a similar thing with Team 1930, where they wanted us to re-organize the team because at that time and throughout 1930's history it was very unorganized. Although we pushed and pushed and we're eventually allowed to build that year. All in all I'm glad to hear that the majority of "disbanded" or "folded" teams have students that continue to push on through the FIRST program.

[Fred Sayre]

My old team (824, SWAT) disbanded when the team had a bad funding year and the lead mentor had a kid. He said to me that he would start the team back up when his kid is the age to participate The mentors primarily would come from UW college students and had a high turnover rate. The high school students were quite involved in other physics and robotics projects so it wasn't too hard for the team to take a break for a while.

[Koko Ed]

I know team 144 which was the first team in FIRST history to win the Championship Chairman's award and the Championship (but not in the smae year though it was close) folded in 2003 and the mentors are now leading 1038.

[Raumiester2010]

my High School split off of 68, forming 1140. 1140 was relatively good winning one regional.

a few years ago, the sponsor folded and 68 was glad to welcome Holly High back into the fold.

good thing for them too as 10 of the 12 students are from holly...

[Jimmy Nichols]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

I know team 144 which was the first team in FIRST history to win the Championship Chairman's award and the Championship (but not in the smae year though it was close) folded in 2003 and the mentors are now leading 1038.

Wow! I didn't know that was the first year for the Championship Chairmans.

Yeah our parent team (144) disbanded when the school stopped supporting the team. The lead teacher mentor, mentors, and sponsor all left and formed 1038. We tried to take our number, but FIRST wouldn't let us.

[antoineft]

I was also surprised to hear that 1680 folded this year due to sponsorship issues I believe. They had a really strong start a few years back as one of the triplets with 1114 and 1503.

[Michelle Celio]

Originally Posted by gorrilla

186 and 762 folded and one of their mentors formed 1557(us)

EDIT: its 762 not 742.....

Actually...
186 mostly folded in 1065 (We have the stuff to prove it ) But 1065's last season was 2008. Who knows where the rest of the stuff is now...

[ay2b]

Originally Posted by jamie_1930

I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this happen to them, are there any teams that have disbanded since FIRST's inseption?

In 2009, there are approximately 1700 teams (1682, IIRC), and the highest number is at least 3122. They occasionally skip a few numbers, but based on those numbers it indicates that something like 40% of all FIRST teams fold.

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

I know team 144 which was the first team in FIRST history to win the Championship Chairman's award and the Championship (but not in the smae year though it was close) folded in 2003 and the mentors are now leading 1038.

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols

Wow! I didn't know that was the first year for the Championship Chairmans.

No, it wasn't the first year of the Championship Chairman's. The Chairman's Award has been around since the beginning (1992). In 1994, Team 144 won the championship, and in 1996, team 144 won the Chairman's Award. Team 144 was the first team to have ever won both.

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols

Yeah our parent team (144) disbanded when the school stopped supporting the team. The lead teacher mentor, mentors, and sponsor all left and formed 1038. We tried to take our number, but FIRST wouldn't let us.

It's interesting when FIRST allows teams that switch schools to keep the same number and when they don't. I'm not sure what that decision is based on. I've heard that the number stays with the school, but I know of two examples (and therefore suspect it's happened a lot more) where that was not the case -- all the mentors stayed together, but switched schools, and kept the same team number. In both these cases, the old school no longer had a team.

In 1994, Team 144 was with Walnut Hills High School. At some point after that, they switched to Northwest High School. I don't know which school they were with in 1996.

In 2000, Team 488 was Redmond High School. They didn't participate in 2001. In 2002, Team 488 reformed with Franklin High School.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by ay2b

It's interesting when FIRST allows teams that switch schools to keep the same number and when they don't. I'm not sure what that decision is based on. I've heard that the number stays with the school, but I know of two examples (and therefore suspect it's happened a lot more) where that was not the case -- all the mentors stayed together, but switched schools, and kept the same team number. In both these cases, the old school no longer had a team.

From 1996-1998 Team 116 was at South Lakes High School. In 1999, 116 moved from South Lakes High School to Herndon. Interesting enough, South Lakes still fielded a team in 1999, but under a different number.

[Rick TYler]

Originally Posted by ay2b

In 2000, Team 488 was Redmond High School. They didn't participate in 2001. In 2002, Team 488 reformed with Franklin High School.

Heh. The VRC/FTC program I run is based on Redmond High School, and our teacher mentor is the one who founded (or help found) 488. Someday, if we do FRC, we'll want our number back!