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Re: Air compressor

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the compressor itself is rated for?
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Re: Air compressor

doh......100 psi

http://www.drillspot.com/products/35..._Va cuum_Pump

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Re: Air compressor

How does one go about using that compressor as a vacuum pump? I didn't think that it was capable of that, but it's listed as "Compressor/vacuum pump"
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Re: Air compressor

wild guess: reverse the polarity of the power wires?
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Re: Air compressor

I vote to let someone else try that and report the results back to us.
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Re: Air compressor

it's probably a reed valve compressor, and motor direction has nothign to do with airflow
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Re: Air compressor

The compressor does work wired both ways, but not very well.
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Re: Air compressor

I think there was a thread on here awhile back about the compressor compressing regardless of polarity but something about cooling fans spinning backwards and not working well if it was plugged in backwards. I can't seem to find a manual anywhere or instructions about turning this into a vacuum pump.
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Re: Air compressor

Ok, I think I got this one. We tried to use an "Add on" That allowed us to reverse it to use Suction. We tried this in 2007 and it did not work. The part kinda looked like a solenoid and I found it while looking for something else. I hate posting vaguely. But if I find the real thing I'll post it here.
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Re: Air compressor

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Ok, I think I got this one. We tried to use an "Add on" That allowed us to reverse it to use Suction. We tried this in 2007 and it did not work. The part kinda looked like a solenoid and I found it while looking for something else. I hate posting vaguely. But if I find the real thing I'll post it here.
I believe you're referring to a Venturi vacuum pump, which would work with any pressure line. The compressor itself may actually be able to function as a vacuum pump on its own. I'm not sure how though.
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Re: Air compressor

This compressor is known as a "wobble" or WOB-L (TM) pump. The piston is a single piece integrated with the piston rod and seals. It does not have a wrist pin where the rod connects to the piston. This model is not designed for vacuum so you must use a venturi to produce vacuum using this pump. Thomas does make another pump that looks similar that does produce vacuum. It essentially is the same pump with a different head and valve assembly. That pump is part of the 415 series not the 405 series.
The pump works fine in either direction, but the efficiency is higher in the direction marked and therefore less heat is developed.
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