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Re: fundamental flaw with GDC?

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However, you believe that the effect of that cause is still happening. Can we talk more about the effect, without talking about gritty details or making sweeping generalizations? I know it is a fine line.

For example: "I believe that penalties are a recurring shortcoming. The GDC/GAC should work to ensure that accidental penalties are minimized, so that penalties only occur when someone intentionally violates a rule." The example is pie-in-the-sky (we can't install intent monitors on the players) and is by no means perfect. However, it is a more accessible form of "Breaking the plane last year" AND provides a line in the rubric that the GDC can use to determine how well they are weighting your needs.
Wow Eric, I think you hit the nail on the head here exactly. This is pretty much exactly what I am getting at and the very reason I have started this thread this year specifically. I (and others) do see the same recurring problems in games and I'll point to the 2 biggest ones that would have the greatest impact if improved:

1) Reduce accidental penalties (human or robot), its one of the most discussed topics for a reason. A large number of the penalties both this year and in past years were against humans/robots that are absolutely not trying to break the rules in the first place. I don’t think I saw any driver/autonomous code purposely trying to go backwards around the track in Overdrive last year, but how many penalties were there for it?

2) Ensure that the game scoring is easily understandable and evident so that newcomers and spectators can readily understand it. If we want the status of this sport to grow on the world scale and raise it to the level of elite sports (which I believe is entirely possible), this has to be followed. If the values we cherish and uphold in FIRST can be spread, it would seriously make the world a better place! This game is the vehicle we are using to get there so we better make sure it works for spectators.


Many would agree that these issues exist and have existed for a while. So they should be improving over time right? Well I would make the case that they haven’t, and especially in this years game it has gotten worse. So please don’t take this a bash against the GDC, I’m just trying to find a way to improve the situation.


Looks like the consensus is that an added committee would only complicate the matter, and I respect that. Maybe the best way right now to try and fix what I believe is an area for improvement, is to write to FIRST. So that is exactly what I will do! Thanks for all the input everyone.
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