Question: Championship Divisions

Alex Cormier · #1 05-04-2009, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

Not knowing anything about FIRST's rationale for divisional sorting, I suppose anything's possible. Consider this my pitch for seeing something like this - I would love seeing the other Delphi 40's in my division.

Including the honorary ghost of Team 46....
http://web.archive.org/web/199805290.../teamlist.html

How many teams did you use? That showing is different then what the TBA is showing as the prediction?

Travis Hoffman · #2 05-04-2009, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier

How many teams did you use? That showing is different then what the TBA is showing as the prediction?

TBA shows 323 teams (which will increase over the next few days, no doubt). That's the list I used......again, for FUN.

Huskie65 · #3 06-04-2009, 06:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

TBA shows 323 teams (which will increase over the next few days, no doubt). That's the list I used......again, for FUN.

Ya I know we're going and that will move almost everybody. We qualified at the MI State championship.

EricLeifermann · #4 06-04-2009, 07:31

its not that big of a change you'll only move every body after you one space, every body after you will still be together in the same divisions as they were before you signed up.

engunneer · #5 05-04-2009, 22:16

Any periodic sorting should give a nice stackup of teams in each division. This is due to two factors:
1) there is no correlation between team number (mod 4) and effectiveness.
2) there are a LOT of impressive teams this year

That being said, I hope we end up somewhere other than Newton, but only because it is the furthest field from the pit, and it takes a LONG time to walk all the way around the dome every time.

Jon Jack · #6 05-04-2009, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by engunneer

That being said, I hope we end up somewhere other than Newton, but only because it is the furthest field from the pit, and it takes a LONG time to walk all the way around the dome every time.

Actually it's second closest. Archimedes is furthest followed by Curie, Newton and Galileo

Greg Marra · #7 05-04-2009, 22:54

I've changed the script to color teams who have won three or more events solid red. Team 67 was messing things up.

http://thebluealliance.net/cmp09/divisions.php

BenB · #8 06-04-2009, 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Marra

I've changed the script to color teams who have won three or more events solid red. Team 67 was messing things up.

http://thebluealliance.net/cmp09/divisions.php

The red outline doesn't standout enough to me, could you highlight them another way. Maybe a blue back ground?

Adam Freeman · #9 06-04-2009, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Marra

I've changed the script to color teams who have won three or more events solid red. Team 67 was messing things up.

http://thebluealliance.net/cmp09/divisions.php

Sorry! We don't mean to cause problems

Tom Bottiglieri · #10 06-04-2009, 09:36

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Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

Sorry! We don't mean to cause problems

If you win Championship, you will also break the signature banner bar.

Greg Marra · #11 06-04-2009, 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri

If you win Championship, you will also break the signature banner bar.

Fun Historical Fact:
The sig bar used to only display 4 events. It was modified to display 5 after 1114 participated in 3 regionals, a division, and made it to Einstein last year.

EricH · #12 06-04-2009, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Marra

Fun Historical Fact:
The sig bar used to only display 4 events. It was modified to display 5 after 1114 participated in 3 regionals, a division, and made it to Einstein last year.

So if they win a Division, they'll break the bar. You might want to look into giving it the option to display 6... And I thought it was 217 breaking the bar.

FIRST: We don't raise the bar, we say "What bar?" as we go through it.

The Lucas · #13 06-04-2009, 14:43

MI rankings are up!

Can anyone add the Auto Qualifiers from MN, MI, and Atlanta nominees 1-15 (65 won and is included as #7, should take 14 total) as from the FiM rankings and make a speculative Division prediction list?

P.S. Sorry to The Suspects (team 440) for a typo in my last post in The waiting list thread listing 410 not 440 as qualifying. Congrats on your EI award and spot at Champs!

The Lucas · #14 07-04-2009, 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lucas

Can anyone add the Auto Qualifiers from MN, MI, and Atlanta nominees 1-15 (65 won and is included as #7, should take 14 total) as from the FiM rankings and make a speculative Division prediction list?

Ok since no one made this list, I made it myself. I added the 24 Week 6 qualified teams (down to #20 Team 226 on the FiM Rankings). By the way, 440 and 2834 were the 2 teams that added today to get the list up to 325. Here is the list:

Code:

Archi	Curie 	Galileo	Newton
1	11	16	20
25	27	33	39
45	47	48	49
56	60	61	65
67	68	70	71
75	79	85	86
88	93	102	107
111	115	118	120
121	122	125	126
131	135	138	141
148	151	155	159
168	175	176	177
179	180	188	190
191	195	201	203
207	217	222	226
228	230	231	233
234	236	245	247
254	263	271	279
280	280	281	287
292	303	314	326
329	337	339	340
341	343	346	353
358	359	360	364
365	368	375	386
395	399	418	433
435	440	461	469
488	492	494	499
503	529	533	538
548	555	558	573
578	585	597	604
612	620	624	665
668	692	704	708
714	716	744	753
766	768	811	815
816	830	832	842
846	852	857	862
868	870	894	904
910	922	930	931
932	967	971	973
980	987	999	1002
1013	1014	1023	1024
1038	1058	1086	1089
1098	1099	1108	1114
1124	1138	1155	1165
1195	1208	1209	1218
1250	1261	1266	1270
1287	1288	1289	1302
1305	1311	1318	1323
1332	1334	1341	1350
1390	1421	1425	1429
1450	1458	1477	1502
1503	1506	1507	1511
1516	1519	1527	1535
1538	1540	1547	1551
1555	1557	1561	1566
1569	1577	1592	1598
1601	1622	1625	1629
1646	1649	1657	1662
1675	1676	1700	1706
1710	1712	1714	1717
1726	1730	1731	1732
1739	1742	1743	1745
1746	1747	1771	1772
1796	1806	1807	1811
1829	1834	1836	1868
1872	1885	1893	1902
1918	1923	1927	1983
1986	1987	2004	2039
2056	2067	2070	2169
2173	2185	2188	2194
2214	2220	2230	2234
2283	2340	2344	2348
2354	2377	2415	2443
2470	2486	2500	2520
2543	2549	2550	2579
2587	2590	2609	2620
2621	2635	2638	2642
2655	2659	2702	2729
2741	2753	2771	2775
2779	2783	2791	2809
2813	2815	2826	2834
2836	2844	2848	2866
2874	2875	2877	2884
2890	2910	2915	2936
2970	2992	2996	3009
3010	3020	3059	3062
3075	3091	3105

The list has 247 teams, which seems like enough teams, but it would make sense to add at least 1 more to even the divisions.

By the way, Archimedes looks stacked (and I'm not just saying that because the whole Philly champ alliance is in that division

)

Koko Ed · #15 07-04-2009, 02:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lucas

Ok since no one made this list, I made it myself. I added the 24 Week 6 qualified teams (down to #20 Team 226 on the FiM Rankings). By the way, 440 and 2834 were the 2 teams that added today to get the list up to 325. Here is the list:

Code:

Archi	Curie 	Galileo	Newton
1	11	16	20
25	27	33	39
45	47	48	49
56	60	61	65
67	68	70	71
75	79	85	86
88	93	102	107
111	115	118	120
121	122	125	126
131	135	138	141
148	151	155	159
168	175	176	177
179	180	188	190
191	195	201	203
207	217	222	226
228	230	231	233
234	236	245	247
254	263	271	279
280	280	281	287
292	303	314	326
329	337	339	340
341	343	346	353
358	359	360	364
365	368	375	386
395	399	418	433
435	440	461	469
488	492	494	499
503	529	533	538
548	555	558	573
578	585	597	604
612	620	624	665
668	692	704	708
714	716	744	753
766	768	811	815
816	830	832	842
846	852	857	862
868	870	894	904
910	922	930	931
932	967	971	973
980	987	999	1002
1013	1014	1023	1024
1038	1058	1086	1089
1098	1099	1108	1114
1124	1138	1155	1165
1195	1208	1209	1218
1250	1261	1266	1270
1287	1288	1289	1302
1305	1311	1318	1323
1332	1334	1341	1350
1390	1421	1425	1429
1450	1458	1477	1502
1503	1506	1507	1511
1516	1519	1527	1535
1538	1540	1547	1551
1555	1557	1561	1566
1569	1577	1592	1598
1601	1622	1625	1629
1646	1649	1657	1662
1675	1676	1700	1706
1710	1712	1714	1717
1726	1730	1731	1732
1739	1742	1743	1745
1746	1747	1771	1772
1796	1806	1807	1811
1829	1834	1836	1868
1872	1885	1893	1902
1918	1923	1927	1983
1986	1987	2004	2039
2056	2067	2070	2169
2173	2185	2188	2194
2214	2220	2230	2234
2283	2340	2344	2348
2354	2377	2415	2443
2470	2486	2500	2520
2543	2549	2550	2579
2587	2590	2609	2620
2621	2635	2638	2642
2655	2659	2702	2729
2741	2753	2771	2775
2779	2783	2791	2809
2813	2815	2826	2834
2836	2844	2848	2866
2874	2875	2877	2884
2890	2910	2915	2936
2970	2992	2996	3009
3010	3020	3059	3062
3075	3091	3105

The list has 247 teams, which seems like enough teams, but it would make sense to add at least 1 more to even the divisions.

By the way, Archimedes looks stacked (and I'm not just saying that because the whole Philly champ alliance is in that division

)

Looking over in Archie seeing the possibility of 67 and 2056 getting together should scare everyone too death.

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