human player or robot?

[Molten]

Originally Posted by Kricu

I'm not saying I support the strategy

Sorry, wasn't trying to imply that. I just saw a possible random debate starting. Thought I'd stop it before it started.

[scoutmasterlord]

It's fine

[robotlover]

TO be honest I think th e importance of them is equal and both could do an effecient job at scoring well. But I think that it's almost unfair, because I think that the robot should have more importance then the human players... What do you guys think?

[ScottOliveira]

Originally Posted by Taylor

Is that really a good strategy? If an alliance finds itself in an unsurmountable hole, it may force a <G14> situation.

Better to have a G14 than a loss. G14's can affect the outcome of a match (I recall one match at the Palmetto regional where our human player got a empty cell, but we had a double G14 so no super cells, he scored the empty, but we lost by half a dozen points or so), but in many matches super cells are not used. I imagine they will be in play more frequently at the Championship, but it's still important to know what teams you'll be facing and when. If in your next match your alliance partners never use super cells, it might not matter so much if you pull the G14 in the current one.

[J-Brock]

The human player needs more balls and empty cells from the robot, the robot needs the balls thrown on the field by the human players.

[Chris is me]

This is an interesting problem. One alliance was more HP oriented at 10,000 Lakes's eliminations and we ended up losing partly because of that underestimation. There have been times when one could rely on an HP in desperation to handle scoring (say you're facing Winnovation and need to pin them), and having a great HP would be beneficial.

I'd say second pick should primarily be based on HP.

[asmo0901]

I think a good combination of both makes a winning combination. i hope FIRST has more competitions where human players are needed just as much as robots

[ScottOliveira]

Originally Posted by asmo0901

I think a good combination of both makes a winning combination. i hope FIRST has more competitions where human players are needed just as much as robots

I would have to disagree. I disliked the heavy role that human players have in Lunacy. I mean, it is a ROBOTICS competition. When human players have an equal role, I feel it detracts from the competition overall. That being said, I'm not opposed to human players, I just feel the robot should be in a very dominant role, doing a large majority of scoring, etc.