How about eight divisions on four fields

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

I don't understand what you're trying to say. The goal of the alliance is to win the match, isn't it? That's what every team on the field ought to be working toward, in qualification matches as well as elimination matches. If a team values "showcasing" above playing to win, and thus loses a match, I would seriously question their strategic judgement.

Are you suggesting that some teams go out there just to grandstand, don't really think about the effect of that attitude on their alliance partners and the match results, and thus end up selecting themselves out of the elimination rounds?

i think that he is trying to say that some robots may try to do something(s) during the qualification rounds that may not necessarily be to their strengths, but it helps them to be more noticed. this doesnt mean that that robot is a total detriment to an alliance in quals, but it does mean that a team MAY be more prone to look after onesself in order to be noticed by the picking alliances.

[rick.oliver]

Originally Posted by cziggy343

i think that he is trying to say that some robots may try to do something(s) during the qualification rounds that may not necessarily be to their strengths, but it helps them to be more noticed. this doesnt mean that that robot is a total detriment to an alliance in quals, but it does mean that a team MAY be more prone to look after onesself in order to be noticed by the picking alliances.

That has been my experience on occassion; especially on Saturday morning as teams are vying for a spot on an alliance. It is also true that teams are trying to accomplish what they designed their robot to do. It has been my experience that, on occassion, the agreed roles and strategy are not executed in a qualifying match and for reasons that have excaped me.

Oh, and Lil' Lavery, thanks for taking us through the math. I should have remembered to "do the math". Well done.

[Chris is me]

I think it would be easier and in my opinion much better if two alliances from each field advanced rather than just one. (That's how it's done, right?)

[rick.oliver]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I think it would be easier and in my opinion much better if two alliances from each field advanced rather than just one. (That's how it's done, right?)

I don't understand what you propose. Could you say more to help me understand?

[EricH]

Right now, only one alliance advances from each division. He's suggesting sending two. This might be a workable idea, assuming that you skip divisional finals. But why would you do that?

[Alan Anderson]

You'd do that in order to give twice as many teams the opportunity to play on the Einstein field.

It would more than double the number of matches on Einstein, while saving only the [simultaneous] divisional final matches. It would also complicate the divisions' award ceremonies -- would there actually be a divisional champion, or would twice as many teams end up as divisional finalists only?

[Chris is me]

I was thinking that the division championship would play out as normal, and one team would be crowned the champion of each division, but that match largely doesn't matter except maybe for seeding or something. Just an idea.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I was thinking that the division championship would play out as normal, and one team would be crowned the champion of each division, but that match largely doesn't matter except maybe for seeding or something. Just an idea.

And so you're practically doing the same thing as currently. You're just adding another 8 matches without subtracting any.

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by EricH

And so you're practically doing the same thing as currently. You're just adding another 8 matches without subtracting any.

Minimum of 8, could be up to 12 (or more with ties).