Galileo 2009

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by AlexD744

I'd say it's possible, however, I've never been to a championship before (I'm a freshman). But I bet it could happen. I doubt it would bring them to #1 but i can imagine the top 8. It's still unlikely.

Naa, top 8 is understandable, but has a team gotten lucky with alliance partners and gotten to 1st seed at Champs?

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

Naa, top 8 is understandable, but has a team gotten lucky with alliance partners and gotten to 1st seed at Champs?

It has happened before. I know some will say 1732 in 2007 that got lucky and seeded #1 on Curie. One would be crazy to say we were on the same level of 1114 and 330, but I feel we were one of the better tube scorers and with only seven qualfication matches and an easier schedule, a lot can happen. I'm not sure its a good idea to call out various teams and say their achievements were lucky, though. But yeah, it has happened before a couple of times.

[Magnechu]

Our robot:
Team RICE 870
Power Dumper, conveyor belt to hopper
Holds 12 balls comfortably, 16 or so max
Us and 102 were by far the best robots at Long Island, and we seeded 1 and 3 accordingly, losing in semi finals together to unfortunate circumstances

It's cool to see us (fairly) far up in that rankings sheet! It'd be awesome just to make eliminations.

[prettycolors91]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Similar to what I did last year, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

Team  Avg Seed	Median	Mode	StDev	Min	Max	#1 seed	Top 8
67	6.0	4	1	5.7	1	28	42	153
71	7.5	4	1	8.3	1	50	46	138
1195	13.6	11	5	10.9	1	63	11	83
971	14.0	11	2	12.2	1	63	8	82
40	14.8	12	4	11.6	1	52	8	75
716	15.7	13	13	12.4	1	68	10	64
1717	15.9	12.5	9	12.9	1	74	6	70
111	17.6	13	3	14.2	1	61	8	67
207	17.7	14.5	4	14.4	1	80	8	61
987	18.9	15	10	13.7	1	63	7	55
45	19.6	16	11	15.4	1	70	5	57
25	20.4	17	13	14.0	1	66	2	43
1923	21.4	19	4	15.0	1	63	6	52
179	21.8	19	18	15.1	1	78	2	42
704	21.9	19	15	14.6	1	75	3	36
870	22.9	18.5	8	16.1	1	77	3	39
744	23.2	19	16	15.8	1	76	4	41
151	25.7	23	32	16.2	1	85	1	28
1318	25.8	21.5	14	16.5	1	81	2	22
2741	25.8	22	17	16.5	1	73	4	28
1332	27.0	25	10	16.7	1	76	4	30
2348	27.6	27.5	16	16.5	2	76	0	27
1742	28.7	26.5	31	18.3	1	79	1	30
56	29.3	28	14	18.1	1	79	1	24
115	29.7	28	12	16.0	2	68	0	17
2775	31.1	29.5	29	16.1	2	76	0	15
20	31.5	30	44	18.4	1	84	2	23
1208	32.0	29.5	22	18.3	2	84	0	16
1250	32.7	31	26	19.7	1	80	1	22
1477	33.1	31	36	19.1	3	86	0	19
973	35.4	32	14	19.8	2	85	0	13
47	38.6	37	46	18.1	5	82	0	5
708	38.7	36	34	20.1	1	81	1	12
2844	39.1	38.5	39	18.4	3	80	0	9
1745	39.3	37	36	18.4	4	85	0	9
418	39.9	40	27	18.8	1	81	1	6
359	41.0	40.5	45	18.6	2	82	0	6
1941	41.9	40	24	19.8	4	85	0	6
435	42.2	41.5	52	18.9	2	82	0	9
2729	42.4	42.5	34	19.3	3	87	0	2
226	42.5	44	48	18.3	6	85	0	4
555	43.4	44	65	20.2	1	86	1	8
1261	46.1	46	68	19.9	7	85	0	1
2936	46.3	47.5	53	19.1	2	87	0	5
1902	46.6	46	34	19.7	3	87	0	4
2230	47.4	49.5	50	18.4	8	86	0	1
281	48.6	51	69	19.6	4	87	0	3
494	49.1	51.5	70	20.0	1	84	1	5
279	49.4	51	50	19.1	6	87	0	3
1872	49.5	52	57	19.0	6	87	0	3
2214	50.2	51	53	18.2	1	86	1	1
967	50.3	50.5	68	19.5	2	87	0	2
1124	51.2	52	57	17.7	3	86	0	4
1676	51.3	52.5	58	18.8	2	86	0	3
11	51.6	53.5	53	19.0	5	87	0	1
1540	53.0	54	43	17.9	4	87	0	3
65	53.0	55	54	18.3	6	86	0	3
168	53.8	55.5	52	19.6	6	87	0	1
3059	54.2	55	37	18.3	5	87	0	1
815	54.8	55	52	18.1	7	85	0	1
2638	55.9	56	54	19.3	6	87	0	1
303	56.0	57	57	18.0	8	86	0	2
1829	56.4	58	62	18.3	11	87	0	0
1551	56.6	59	69	17.4	8	87	0	1
932	57.5	59	72	18.3	11	87	0	0
1270	57.7	59	78	17.9	9	86	0	0
230	57.7	63	67	19.2	9	87	0	0
1662	59.1	62	73	18.3	7	87	0	1
461	60.0	64	78	19.1	8	87	0	1
2642	61.4	62	81	17.1	6	87	0	1
999	61.8	65	79	16.7	9	87	0	0
1646	62.3	66	66	17.3	11	87	0	0
1598	63.2	66.5	83	16.4	19	87	0	0
440	64.2	69	81	16.7	15	87	0	0
2910	65.0	71	82	16.7	19	86	0	0
1710	67.7	72	86	15.7	9	87	0	0
1601	69.5	73.5	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
1450	70.2	74	85	14.4	18	87	0	0
753	70.2	74	83	14.1	11	87	0	0
2579	70.6	75	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
2234	70.9	75	86	14.5	20	87	0	0
1772	71.9	75.5	85	13.8	11	87	0	0
1836	72.1	75	83	13.6	22	87	0	0
1058	72.5	76	84	13.6	10	87	0	0
1885	76.4	79	87	10.8	23	87	0	0
2550	77.8	82	87	10.4	40	87	0	0
203	80.2	84	87	8.2	44	87	0	0

I must say, I am not opposed to these predictions

[jtdowney]

To quote Han Solo in Empire Strikes Back: "Never tell me the odds!" But thanks Joe this is a very interesting analysis.

[ttldomination]

This year's game is even more prone to a mediocre average definitely creeping up there. And the problem with that is, that the mediocre team generally either
1. messes up the alliances that the other lower seeds might possibly because generally other seeded teams don't want to team up with this seed.
2. or picks a really strong team but the other alliances are stronger and they definitely don't make it to finals, which ultimately kinda dooms the other strong robot that had a chance.

I saw it happen at regionals,

but worlds is a class above regionals and I'm not sure if this is very likely at worlds. Teams bring their best and most times the good robots do end up on top.

[smurfgirl]

Originally Posted by ttldomination

This year's game is even more prone to a mediocre average definitely creeping up there. And the problem with that is, that the mediocre team generally either
1. messes up the alliances that the other lower seeds might possibly because generally other seeded teams don't want to team up with this seed.
2. or picks a really strong team but the other alliances are stronger and they definitely don't make it to finals, which ultimately kinda dooms the other strong robot that had a chance.

I saw it happen at regionals,

but worlds is a class above regionals and I'm not sure if this is very likely at worlds. Teams bring their best and most times the good robots do end up on top.

I've seen this happen before at regionals and the Championship, but not very often. If they really lucked out by seeding where they did, usually their alliance does not go very far, because often the best they can have on their alliance is one good team total(their first pick), because by the time they go again on the serpentine all the other top-notch bots have already been selected. Here, while the division is deep enough that they could still have two good teams on their alliance, there is also the potential for there be some superalliances of three great robots. So again, it isn't that likely for one "lucky" team to have a huge net effect on the outcome of the field.

On another note, the Galileo thread has the most posts in it out of the four divisions- is this a sign that it will be the most spirited field at the Championship?

[ErikEdhlund]

Amen to that, now lets not forget about the ever so colorful WildStang. We still have a few tricks up our sleeves.

[waialua359]

I didnt even realize 971 was in this division.
The robot is awesome and will do some damage in this competition.
We had a good match together at SVR in a very heated match and look forward to teaming up again.

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

1676 51.3 52.5 58 18.8 2 86 0 3

(whew) at least we're unlikely to end up dead last, with our max at 86 out of 87.

Originally Posted by smurfgirl

is this a sign that it will be the most spirited field at the Championship?

Absolutely! EVERYone knows that Galileo is the best division, and that's why they put so many of the very best teams there. Just that, like Wayne said, there's gonna be a lot of blood from all the thrashing....

Sad to say, while 1676 will be there in force, I won't. Work beckons. Sorry to be missing it.

Don

[ttldomination]

Galileo is easily the best spirited. I wouldn't say that it's because we're talking the most here, I just believe that Galileo got the most avid Chief Delphi users. .

[prettycolors91]

For some strange reason, the HOT Team seems to have tapped into The Well of Ultimate Spirited-ness this year. My team-mates have amazed me this year (we're usually a pretty reserved group).

Can't wait to bring the noise!!

[AlexD744]

Originally Posted by prettycolors91

For some strange reason, the HOT Team seems to have tapped into The Well of Ultimate Spirited-ness this year. My team-mates have amazed me this year (we're usually a pretty reserved group).

Can't wait to bring the noise!!

I guess the pride in the sucess of your team helps, but then again you're always successful. Or maybe the cheering brought success, that means in order to beat 67 you have to take down their cheering section (graciously of course), a whole new strategy of game play.

[jholman]

Well it's nice to to know that we'll probably finish around 79th. But hey there's a .5% chance at finishing at #11! Who knows though I've seen (and experiaced) wiered things at FIRST competitions.

Team 753 robot description:
Holds 5 balls comfortably and up to 7 total.
Consistaly collects balls.
Quick one ball dumper-cannon.
Good defense.

Good Luck everyone!

[Nick Orlando]

Originally Posted by prettycolors91

For some strange reason, the HOT Team seems to have tapped into The Well of Ultimate Spirited-ness this year. My team-mates have amazed me this year (we're usually a pretty reserved group).

Can't wait to bring the noise!!

Yes I have to agree with Megan on this one. Our team has surprised me as well, normally our team is quite reserved because of all the amazing scouting our teams does. I think our repeated success this year has been a catalyst for such a change. I feel the great cheering has greatly impacted our drive team and kept morals up even when it seemed we would lose, which helped us turn around and win . We have some new cheers that have helped us compete with the great teams like rush(27), killer bees(33) and the thunderchickens(217). I hope we can keep it all up in Atlanta