Best 3rd Pick in Newton

[Chris]

I have to agree with Mr. Noonez

Just off the top of my head i find around 34 highly competitive scoring robots in Newton (in no particular order)

469
365
16
1726
1918
1038
135
121
1625
148
234
1507
1155
126
368
768
228
191
340
85
1657
1732
292
33
233
1714
2609
2996
2970
228
340
612
88
980

I would bet most alliances will pick a scoring robot with some defensive abilities, rather than a pure defensive robot. But i guess we'll all see in about a week. Should be a fun championship, it always is.!!!

But for the sake of argument if i had to pick the third pick i think will make the difference for some alliance I’d have to go with Team 85 (that is if they don't seed) They are always in the thick of it, they play smart, and are great to work with.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Chris

I have to agree with Mr. Noonez

Just off the top of my head i find around 34 highly competitive scoring robots in Newton (in no particular order)

469
365
16
1726
1918
1038
135
121
1625
148
234
1507
1155
126
368
768
2907
228
191
340
612
85
1657
1732
292
33
233
1714
2609
2996
2907
228
191
340
612
88
980
1511

I would bet most alliances will pick a scoring robot with some defensive abilities, rather than a pure defensive robot. But i guess we'll all see in about a week. Should be a fun championship, it always is.!!!

But for the sake of argument if i had to pick the third pick i think will make the difference for some alliance I’d have to go with Team 85 (that is if they don't seed) They are always in the thick of it, they play smart, and are great to work with.

You wrote 191 twice (we must've made on heck of an impression on you )

[nahstobor]

You also put down 612 twice

[Zholl]

Off topic, but it's interesting how many people are posting while I'm still in school....

[MrForbes]

heh...one of my kids just woke up, the other is still in bed, they have the day off from school.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by Zholl

Off topic, but it's interesting how many people are posting while I'm still in school....

Hawaii has no school today as Good Friday is a State Holiday. You mean to tell me that you have/had school?

[Chris Fultz]

Many (most) public schools do not have Good Friday as a holiday.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Chris Fultz

Many (most) public schools do not have Good Friday as a holiday.

My college does. I'm on break right now, otherwise I'd be in Differential Equations at this time. It's a public college.

Back on topic:

gorilla, there are always teams that people can't believe are still available. 65 in this year's MI Championship, 503 in the 2005 Championship, the list goes on. They may be a Florida team, they may be a North Dakota team, they may be international.

I'm going to refine my earlier statement:

The best 3rd pick in any division is the one that best fits the alliance strategy and was overlooked in the previous round of selection.

[JVN]

Originally Posted by EricH

The best 3rd pick in any division is the one that best fits the alliance strategy and was overlooked in the previous round of selection.

Eric...
You are 100% correct, however you didn't really say anything.
The point of a thread like this is to have some fun and speculate about which team is going to be the surprise 3rd round "steal".

"The best robot at Championship is the one that is playing the best."
While 100% true, it is just silly to say something like that. Do you think it makes you seem smart?

Everyone knows that anyone can win and anything can happen on "Any Given Saturday". That is why we scout AT THE EVENT. No one actually makes their pick lists based on these threads.

I've been surprised this year at the number of people taking stuff like this so seriously. I don't mean to single you out. Your post wasn't bad, it just reminds me of the people who get all hot and bothered when someone says "1114 has a good machine and has a good chance of winning Archimedes". I hate it when someone feels the need to reply "Yes, they are good but anyone can win." OF COURSE ANYONE CAN WIN! However that doesn't mean we can't have fun speculating about which "greats" will come out on top.

I'm not going to speculate my "sleeper" because then they wouldn't be a sleeper anymore...
Then again, whenever I tell our scouts "watch this team, they are my 3rd round sleeper" they usually end up seeding in the top 4.

$.02
-John

[JackN]

It is funny that Aren is hoping that 148 slips to the 2nd round I am thinking that 148 might be thinking the same thing about 1625.

Honestly I think the best 2nd round pick is a team that can play strong defense, pin well, score a few and has a smart coach. I think teams like 33, 16, 177, and 862 would all be great 2nd round picks.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by JackN

Honestly I think the best 2nd round pick is a team that can play strong defense, pin well, score a few and has a smart coach. I think teams like 33, 16, 177, and 862 would all be great 2nd round picks.

I think someone didn't hear about what happened in St. Louis.

[rees2001]

WOW,
Has anybody seen the horse because the cart already won the championship?

I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves here. Nobody knows who will be ranked & where. I love the speculation but who is to say that 148 won't be picking 1625 & then whoever? I know a track record has been established but if any of you have been to Championship before you will know things don't always go according to plan.
I still think back to '04 when we were hoping to pick 67 & 1126 like we did in Buckeye. As it turns out our second pick from Buckeye picked us second... after picking 67 1st.

anybody remember 195 from '06 Newton? I do.

[Starke]

Originally Posted by rees2001

I still think back to '04 when we were hoping to pick 67 & 1126 like we did in Buckeye. As it turns out our second pick from Buckeye picked us second... after picking 67 1st.

I remember that! Good point Rees!

[Zholl]

Originally Posted by waialua359

Hawaii has no school today as Good Friday is a State Holiday. You mean to tell me that you have/had school?

Yes, I posted from the tech room during lunch earlier today. We don't get things like Good Friday off here in Colorado. We get next week off though. And you all know the reason

Originally Posted by David Brinza

Isn't there something special about being the last pick in alliance selections? The drama is just incredible!!

Yes. Yes there is. That is exactly what happened to us in Colorado. Kept sitting there with the though "please pick us, please please please pick us," and then after debating it a couple minutes we were picked by 399 as the very last pick of the day.


So my question is how do you scout these teams at nationals to make this decision. I know to do pit scouting and watch the matches, but what is the best thing to be looking for in a more defensive bot?

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Zholl

So my question is how do you scout these teams at nationals to make this decision. I know to do pit scouting and watch the matches, but what is the best thing to be looking for in a more defensive bot?

In Atlanta, a "defensive" bot may not be the best option for the other two alliance partners. Teams also love picking others who are known to work insanely well with others and contribute 100%. Such as 217, 67, and 65 at MSC. Driving skill for me is a big factor in alliance selection.