Go to Post Problem with microprocessors: they do exactly what you tell them to do - KenWittlief [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum > FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-04-2009, 12:11
Mark McLeod's Avatar
Mark McLeod Mark McLeod is offline
Just Itinerant
AKA: Hey dad...Father...MARK
FRC #0358 (Robotic Eagles)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Hauppauge, Long Island, NY
Posts: 8,846
Mark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond reputeMark McLeod has a reputation beyond repute
**FIRST EMAIL**/Let the Lunacy Continue!

Greetings 2009 Championship Teams:

Wow! Here we are, one week before the start of the 2009 FRC Championship event. Our trucks are loaded and on their way to Atlanta, with the FIRST FRC staff and our fantastic volunteers soon to follow. We can't wait to get things started and to see you all down there!

Before you go, we want to remind you of the key points below. We also want to bring your attention to an important notice regarding robot transport home.

Due to the current economic conditions, FIRST is encouraging all teams that want to take their robot directly home to do so. This will lessen the financial impact on our valued sponsor FedEx, and also allow you to have quicker access to your robot. Therefore, we are extending our offer to allow teams to remove their robots from the event. The new request deadline is next Tuesday, April 14th 5:00 pm EST. To recap the instructions:
  • Email your request to frcteams@usfirst.org. Your letter will be reviewed by the Director and you will be notified of your permission;
  • The email subject line should be: "Robot Removal, “Championship Event - Team XXXX (your team #)";
  • State your reason for the rule variation;
  • Provide a description of the vehicle you will use to transport your robot and crate.
Please note the following rules apply:
  • The drayage company will neither help nor provide equipment for the removal, and teams will not be permitted to use the loading dock and no pallet jacks available to go out the front;
  • You may have to load out at an earlier or later time than may be convenient;
  • You will also be responsible for dismantling and removing your robot crate. Do not expect to receive assistance in those processes;
  • A $250 clean-up fee will be assessed for any crates left behind;
  • Please stop by the Pit Administration table prior to leaving the building with your robot so you can be officially "checked out" by FIRST staff!
IMPORTANT: Remember, if you do ship your robot home do NOT exceed the 400 lb crate limit or you will be charged accordingly! This means be very careful what you pack in with your robot (e.g., tools) that might cause you to exceed this weight stipulation. We do plan on re-weighing all crates. As always, second crates are your responsibility to ship through the Shepard shipping desk.

Any questions? Please contact us at frcteams@usfirst.org

NEXT.....

......please read the following important information and reminders!
Let the Lunacy Continue.............Go 2009 Championship Teams!
__________________
"Rationality is our distinguishing characteristic - it's what sets us apart from the beasts." - Aristotle
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-04-2009, 16:45
Bob Steele's Avatar
Bob Steele Bob Steele is offline
Professional Steamacrit Hunter
AKA: Bob Steele
FRC #1983 (Skunk Works Robotics)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington
Posts: 1,528
Bob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond repute
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Let the Lunacy Continue!

I wonder what the cost per hundredweight is for Fed Ex Freight?
I don't know many teams that ship to Atlanta that aren't over the limit.

I know the Drayage cost for being overweight...and we budget for that........ but it is interesting that this information just comes out now... after we shipped everything to Atlanta..I can't recall FIRST ever re-weighing FedEx crates on the way home.

It is also interesting that there is nothing in the Robot Transportation section of the rules that limits the crate to being 400 lbs or less... The statement in the rules (Section 4.4.1.1) is that 5. All Crates MUST: Weigh 400 lbs or less when loaded to avoid drayage charges.
It says nothing about a weight limit to avoid excess Fed Ex charges...

It is also interesting that the email indicates there will be a $250 charge for crates left behind when the Robot Transportation rules specify (In Section 4.9.1.2 " A $150 clean up fee will be assesses for any crates left behind.."

Our team really appreciates the Fed Ex donation... but it is difficult to make any kind of change in your shipping procedures when that change is made after your crate has already shipped and you have already made all of your other travel arrangements. FIRST is changing the "rules" in the middle of the game for shipping.

We are in Seattle and we have little choice..we can't "drive" our tools to Georgia. We also have a difficult time because airlines are now charging for checked baggage. We are already having to pay an additional $200 in extra checked baggage fees for the totes that will bring the rest of our tools.

At this point we have little choice but to pay more again...
This is very frustrating...

If the rules had specified this we would have done our analysis and dealt with costs... but the rules don't specify this... We have shipped twice before to Atlanta and had to pay drayage (which we knew about) but NEVER had to consider paying extra Fed Ex...

I hope that next year's rules changes will consider this...and also consider the disadvantage that teams from far away...like the West Coast or Hawaii...have in this regard...

thanks

Good luck to everyone in Atlanta!!
__________________
Raisbeck Aviation High School TEAM 1983 - Seattle, Washington
Las Vegas 07 WINNER w/ 1425/254...Seattle 08 WINNER w/ 2046/949.. Oregon 09 WINNER w/1318/2635..SEA 10 RCA ..Spokane 12 WINNER w/2122/4082 and RCA...Central Wa 13 WINNER w/1425/753..Seattle 13 WINNER w/948/492 & RCA ..Spokane 13 WINNER w/2471/4125.. Spokane 14 - DCA --Auburn 14 - WINNER w/1318/4960..District CMP 14 WINNER w/1318/2907, District CMA.. CMP 14 Newton Finalist w 971/341/3147 ... Auburn Mountainview 15 WINNER w/1318/3049 - Mt Vernon 15 WINNER w/1318/4654 - Philomath 15 WINNER w/955/847 -District CMP 15 WINNER w/955/2930 & District CMA -CMP Newton -Industrial Design Award

Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 10-04-2009, 16:58
waialua359's Avatar
waialua359 waialua359 is offline
Mentor
AKA: Glenn
FRC #0359 (Hawaiian Kids)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: Waialua, HI
Posts: 3,306
waialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond reputewaialua359 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Let the Lunacy Continue!

Thanks for making a note of this.
This is in fact why its so difficult for more teams WEST of Hawaii to want to participate as the travel and shipping costs are horrendous if they do a regional and CMP.
I can only imagine what would happen if FEDEX stopped their contribution to FIRST.
Sign of the economic times...............
__________________

2016 Hawaii Regional #1 seed, IDesign, Safety Award
2016 NY Tech Valley Regional Champions, #1 seed, Innovation in Controls Award
2016 Lake Superior Regional Champions, #1 seed, Quality Award, Dean's List
2015 FRC Worlds-Carver Division Champions
2015 Hawaii Regional Champions, #1 seed.
2015 Australia Regional Champions, #2 seed, Engineering Excellence Award
2015 Inland Empire Regional Champions, #1 seed, Industrial Design Award
2014 OZARK Mountain Brawl Champions, #1 seed.
2014 Hawaii Regional Champions, #1 seed, UL Safety Award
2014 Dallas Regional Champions, #1 seed, Engineering Excellence Award
2014 Northern Lights Regional Champions, #1 seed, Entrepreneurship Award
2013 Championship Dean's List Winner
2013 Utah Regional Champion, #1 seed, KP&B Award, Deans List
2013 Boilermaker Regional Champion, #1 seed, Motorola Quality Award
2012 Lone Star Regional Champion, #1 seed, Motorola Quality Award
2012 Hawaii Regional Champions #1 seed, Motorola Quality Award
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FIRST Robots: Behind the Design - Lunacy sloteera General Forum 25 19-03-2009 11:46
**FIRST EMAIL**/ Let the Lunacy Begin! Mark McLeod FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 14 23-02-2009 19:49
Let the President know what FIRST means to you! Jon236 General Forum 9 15-01-2009 18:59
**FIRST EMAIL**/Are you Ready? Let the 2007 Games Begin! Mark McLeod FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 0 26-02-2007 12:32
**FIRST EMAIL**/Let the Games Begin! miketwalker FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 0 02-03-2004 18:10


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 17:15.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi