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Re: Galileo 2009

Similar to what I did last year, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

Code:
Team  Avg Seed	Median	Mode	StDev	Min	Max	#1 seed	Top 8
67	6.0	4	1	5.7	1	28	42	153
71	7.5	4	1	8.3	1	50	46	138
1195	13.6	11	5	10.9	1	63	11	83
971	14.0	11	2	12.2	1	63	8	82
40	14.8	12	4	11.6	1	52	8	75
716	15.7	13	13	12.4	1	68	10	64
1717	15.9	12.5	9	12.9	1	74	6	70
111	17.6	13	3	14.2	1	61	8	67
207	17.7	14.5	4	14.4	1	80	8	61
987	18.9	15	10	13.7	1	63	7	55
45	19.6	16	11	15.4	1	70	5	57
25	20.4	17	13	14.0	1	66	2	43
1923	21.4	19	4	15.0	1	63	6	52
179	21.8	19	18	15.1	1	78	2	42
704	21.9	19	15	14.6	1	75	3	36
870	22.9	18.5	8	16.1	1	77	3	39
744	23.2	19	16	15.8	1	76	4	41
151	25.7	23	32	16.2	1	85	1	28
1318	25.8	21.5	14	16.5	1	81	2	22
2741	25.8	22	17	16.5	1	73	4	28
1332	27.0	25	10	16.7	1	76	4	30
2348	27.6	27.5	16	16.5	2	76	0	27
1742	28.7	26.5	31	18.3	1	79	1	30
56	29.3	28	14	18.1	1	79	1	24
115	29.7	28	12	16.0	2	68	0	17
2775	31.1	29.5	29	16.1	2	76	0	15
20	31.5	30	44	18.4	1	84	2	23
1208	32.0	29.5	22	18.3	2	84	0	16
1250	32.7	31	26	19.7	1	80	1	22
1477	33.1	31	36	19.1	3	86	0	19
973	35.4	32	14	19.8	2	85	0	13
47	38.6	37	46	18.1	5	82	0	5
708	38.7	36	34	20.1	1	81	1	12
2844	39.1	38.5	39	18.4	3	80	0	9
1745	39.3	37	36	18.4	4	85	0	9
418	39.9	40	27	18.8	1	81	1	6
359	41.0	40.5	45	18.6	2	82	0	6
1941	41.9	40	24	19.8	4	85	0	6
435	42.2	41.5	52	18.9	2	82	0	9
2729	42.4	42.5	34	19.3	3	87	0	2
226	42.5	44	48	18.3	6	85	0	4
555	43.4	44	65	20.2	1	86	1	8
1261	46.1	46	68	19.9	7	85	0	1
2936	46.3	47.5	53	19.1	2	87	0	5
1902	46.6	46	34	19.7	3	87	0	4
2230	47.4	49.5	50	18.4	8	86	0	1
281	48.6	51	69	19.6	4	87	0	3
494	49.1	51.5	70	20.0	1	84	1	5
279	49.4	51	50	19.1	6	87	0	3
1872	49.5	52	57	19.0	6	87	0	3
2214	50.2	51	53	18.2	1	86	1	1
967	50.3	50.5	68	19.5	2	87	0	2
1124	51.2	52	57	17.7	3	86	0	4
1676	51.3	52.5	58	18.8	2	86	0	3
11	51.6	53.5	53	19.0	5	87	0	1
1540	53.0	54	43	17.9	4	87	0	3
65	53.0	55	54	18.3	6	86	0	3
168	53.8	55.5	52	19.6	6	87	0	1
3059	54.2	55	37	18.3	5	87	0	1
815	54.8	55	52	18.1	7	85	0	1
2638	55.9	56	54	19.3	6	87	0	1
303	56.0	57	57	18.0	8	86	0	2
1829	56.4	58	62	18.3	11	87	0	0
1551	56.6	59	69	17.4	8	87	0	1
932	57.5	59	72	18.3	11	87	0	0
1270	57.7	59	78	17.9	9	86	0	0
230	57.7	63	67	19.2	9	87	0	0
1662	59.1	62	73	18.3	7	87	0	1
461	60.0	64	78	19.1	8	87	0	1
2642	61.4	62	81	17.1	6	87	0	1
999	61.8	65	79	16.7	9	87	0	0
1646	62.3	66	66	17.3	11	87	0	0
1598	63.2	66.5	83	16.4	19	87	0	0
440	64.2	69	81	16.7	15	87	0	0
2910	65.0	71	82	16.7	19	86	0	0
1710	67.7	72	86	15.7	9	87	0	0
1601	69.5	73.5	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
1450	70.2	74	85	14.4	18	87	0	0
753	70.2	74	83	14.1	11	87	0	0
2579	70.6	75	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
2234	70.9	75	86	14.5	20	87	0	0
1772	71.9	75.5	85	13.8	11	87	0	0
1836	72.1	75	83	13.6	22	87	0	0
1058	72.5	76	84	13.6	10	87	0	0
1885	76.4	79	87	10.8	23	87	0	0
2550	77.8	82	87	10.4	40	87	0	0
203	80.2	84	87	8.2	44	87	0	0
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Re: Galileo 2009

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Originally Posted by Joe Ross View Post
Similar to what I did last year, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

Code:
Team  Avg Seed	Median	Mode	StDev	Min	Max	#1 seed	Top 8
67	6.0	4	1	5.7	1	28	42	153
71	7.5	4	1	8.3	1	50	46	138
1195	13.6	11	5	10.9	1	63	11	83
971	14.0	11	2	12.2	1	63	8	82
40	14.8	12	4	11.6	1	52	8	75
716	15.7	13	13	12.4	1	68	10	64
1717	15.9	12.5	9	12.9	1	74	6	70
111	17.6	13	3	14.2	1	61	8	67
207	17.7	14.5	4	14.4	1	80	8	61
987	18.9	15	10	13.7	1	63	7	55
45	19.6	16	11	15.4	1	70	5	57
25	20.4	17	13	14.0	1	66	2	43
1923	21.4	19	4	15.0	1	63	6	52
179	21.8	19	18	15.1	1	78	2	42
704	21.9	19	15	14.6	1	75	3	36
870	22.9	18.5	8	16.1	1	77	3	39
744	23.2	19	16	15.8	1	76	4	41
151	25.7	23	32	16.2	1	85	1	28
1318	25.8	21.5	14	16.5	1	81	2	22
2741	25.8	22	17	16.5	1	73	4	28
1332	27.0	25	10	16.7	1	76	4	30
2348	27.6	27.5	16	16.5	2	76	0	27
1742	28.7	26.5	31	18.3	1	79	1	30
56	29.3	28	14	18.1	1	79	1	24
115	29.7	28	12	16.0	2	68	0	17
2775	31.1	29.5	29	16.1	2	76	0	15
20	31.5	30	44	18.4	1	84	2	23
1208	32.0	29.5	22	18.3	2	84	0	16
1250	32.7	31	26	19.7	1	80	1	22
1477	33.1	31	36	19.1	3	86	0	19
973	35.4	32	14	19.8	2	85	0	13
47	38.6	37	46	18.1	5	82	0	5
708	38.7	36	34	20.1	1	81	1	12
2844	39.1	38.5	39	18.4	3	80	0	9
1745	39.3	37	36	18.4	4	85	0	9
418	39.9	40	27	18.8	1	81	1	6
359	41.0	40.5	45	18.6	2	82	0	6
1941	41.9	40	24	19.8	4	85	0	6
435	42.2	41.5	52	18.9	2	82	0	9
2729	42.4	42.5	34	19.3	3	87	0	2
226	42.5	44	48	18.3	6	85	0	4
555	43.4	44	65	20.2	1	86	1	8
1261	46.1	46	68	19.9	7	85	0	1
2936	46.3	47.5	53	19.1	2	87	0	5
1902	46.6	46	34	19.7	3	87	0	4
2230	47.4	49.5	50	18.4	8	86	0	1
281	48.6	51	69	19.6	4	87	0	3
494	49.1	51.5	70	20.0	1	84	1	5
279	49.4	51	50	19.1	6	87	0	3
1872	49.5	52	57	19.0	6	87	0	3
2214	50.2	51	53	18.2	1	86	1	1
967	50.3	50.5	68	19.5	2	87	0	2
1124	51.2	52	57	17.7	3	86	0	4
1676	51.3	52.5	58	18.8	2	86	0	3
11	51.6	53.5	53	19.0	5	87	0	1
1540	53.0	54	43	17.9	4	87	0	3
65	53.0	55	54	18.3	6	86	0	3
168	53.8	55.5	52	19.6	6	87	0	1
3059	54.2	55	37	18.3	5	87	0	1
815	54.8	55	52	18.1	7	85	0	1
2638	55.9	56	54	19.3	6	87	0	1
303	56.0	57	57	18.0	8	86	0	2
1829	56.4	58	62	18.3	11	87	0	0
1551	56.6	59	69	17.4	8	87	0	1
932	57.5	59	72	18.3	11	87	0	0
1270	57.7	59	78	17.9	9	86	0	0
230	57.7	63	67	19.2	9	87	0	0
1662	59.1	62	73	18.3	7	87	0	1
461	60.0	64	78	19.1	8	87	0	1
2642	61.4	62	81	17.1	6	87	0	1
999	61.8	65	79	16.7	9	87	0	0
1646	62.3	66	66	17.3	11	87	0	0
1598	63.2	66.5	83	16.4	19	87	0	0
440	64.2	69	81	16.7	15	87	0	0
2910	65.0	71	82	16.7	19	86	0	0
1710	67.7	72	86	15.7	9	87	0	0
1601	69.5	73.5	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
1450	70.2	74	85	14.4	18	87	0	0
753	70.2	74	83	14.1	11	87	0	0
2579	70.6	75	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
2234	70.9	75	86	14.5	20	87	0	0
1772	71.9	75.5	85	13.8	11	87	0	0
1836	72.1	75	83	13.6	22	87	0	0
1058	72.5	76	84	13.6	10	87	0	0
1885	76.4	79	87	10.8	23	87	0	0
2550	77.8	82	87	10.4	40	87	0	0
203	80.2	84	87	8.2	44	87	0	0
I'm hoping to not be seated that far down 1270 is hoping to turn a few heads. We have been working very hard on everything we could, we got the bot working at the end of the Buckeye so our averages are way down from where we are hoping to be. This is a stacked division this year, I haven't been on Galileo since 2003.......... Good luck to everyone!! I know I'm looking forward for some intense matches.

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Re: Galileo 2009

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Originally Posted by Joe Ross View Post
Similar to what I did last year, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.
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Joe, would you be so kind as to do this for Curie also? And I'm sure the other divisions wouldn't mind.
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Re: Galileo 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Ross View Post
Similar to what I did last year, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

Code:
Team  Avg Seed	Median	Mode	StDev	Min	Max	#1 seed	Top 8
67	6.0	4	1	5.7	1	28	42	153
71	7.5	4	1	8.3	1	50	46	138
1195	13.6	11	5	10.9	1	63	11	83
971	14.0	11	2	12.2	1	63	8	82
40	14.8	12	4	11.6	1	52	8	75
716	15.7	13	13	12.4	1	68	10	64
1717	15.9	12.5	9	12.9	1	74	6	70
111	17.6	13	3	14.2	1	61	8	67
207	17.7	14.5	4	14.4	1	80	8	61
987	18.9	15	10	13.7	1	63	7	55
45	19.6	16	11	15.4	1	70	5	57
25	20.4	17	13	14.0	1	66	2	43
1923	21.4	19	4	15.0	1	63	6	52
179	21.8	19	18	15.1	1	78	2	42
704	21.9	19	15	14.6	1	75	3	36
870	22.9	18.5	8	16.1	1	77	3	39
744	23.2	19	16	15.8	1	76	4	41
151	25.7	23	32	16.2	1	85	1	28
1318	25.8	21.5	14	16.5	1	81	2	22
2741	25.8	22	17	16.5	1	73	4	28
1332	27.0	25	10	16.7	1	76	4	30
2348	27.6	27.5	16	16.5	2	76	0	27
1742	28.7	26.5	31	18.3	1	79	1	30
56	29.3	28	14	18.1	1	79	1	24
115	29.7	28	12	16.0	2	68	0	17
2775	31.1	29.5	29	16.1	2	76	0	15
20	31.5	30	44	18.4	1	84	2	23
1208	32.0	29.5	22	18.3	2	84	0	16
1250	32.7	31	26	19.7	1	80	1	22
1477	33.1	31	36	19.1	3	86	0	19
973	35.4	32	14	19.8	2	85	0	13
47	38.6	37	46	18.1	5	82	0	5
708	38.7	36	34	20.1	1	81	1	12
2844	39.1	38.5	39	18.4	3	80	0	9
1745	39.3	37	36	18.4	4	85	0	9
418	39.9	40	27	18.8	1	81	1	6
359	41.0	40.5	45	18.6	2	82	0	6
1941	41.9	40	24	19.8	4	85	0	6
435	42.2	41.5	52	18.9	2	82	0	9
2729	42.4	42.5	34	19.3	3	87	0	2
226	42.5	44	48	18.3	6	85	0	4
555	43.4	44	65	20.2	1	86	1	8
1261	46.1	46	68	19.9	7	85	0	1
2936	46.3	47.5	53	19.1	2	87	0	5
1902	46.6	46	34	19.7	3	87	0	4
2230	47.4	49.5	50	18.4	8	86	0	1
281	48.6	51	69	19.6	4	87	0	3
494	49.1	51.5	70	20.0	1	84	1	5
279	49.4	51	50	19.1	6	87	0	3
1872	49.5	52	57	19.0	6	87	0	3
2214	50.2	51	53	18.2	1	86	1	1
967	50.3	50.5	68	19.5	2	87	0	2
1124	51.2	52	57	17.7	3	86	0	4
1676	51.3	52.5	58	18.8	2	86	0	3
11	51.6	53.5	53	19.0	5	87	0	1
1540	53.0	54	43	17.9	4	87	0	3
65	53.0	55	54	18.3	6	86	0	3
168	53.8	55.5	52	19.6	6	87	0	1
3059	54.2	55	37	18.3	5	87	0	1
815	54.8	55	52	18.1	7	85	0	1
2638	55.9	56	54	19.3	6	87	0	1
303	56.0	57	57	18.0	8	86	0	2
1829	56.4	58	62	18.3	11	87	0	0
1551	56.6	59	69	17.4	8	87	0	1
932	57.5	59	72	18.3	11	87	0	0
1270	57.7	59	78	17.9	9	86	0	0
230	57.7	63	67	19.2	9	87	0	0
1662	59.1	62	73	18.3	7	87	0	1
461	60.0	64	78	19.1	8	87	0	1
2642	61.4	62	81	17.1	6	87	0	1
999	61.8	65	79	16.7	9	87	0	0
1646	62.3	66	66	17.3	11	87	0	0
1598	63.2	66.5	83	16.4	19	87	0	0
440	64.2	69	81	16.7	15	87	0	0
2910	65.0	71	82	16.7	19	86	0	0
1710	67.7	72	86	15.7	9	87	0	0
1601	69.5	73.5	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
1450	70.2	74	85	14.4	18	87	0	0
753	70.2	74	83	14.1	11	87	0	0
2579	70.6	75	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
2234	70.9	75	86	14.5	20	87	0	0
1772	71.9	75.5	85	13.8	11	87	0	0
1836	72.1	75	83	13.6	22	87	0	0
1058	72.5	76	84	13.6	10	87	0	0
1885	76.4	79	87	10.8	23	87	0	0
2550	77.8	82	87	10.4	40	87	0	0
203	80.2	84	87	8.2	44	87	0	0
I think we're gonna sneak up on you guys =) GOOD LUCK!!
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Re: Galileo 2009

It has already been said but wow this is going to be an amazing field! Can't wait! To be honest I think this division is so deep with quality that making predictions of elimination outcomes is just going to go out the window. I suspect epic matches, and predict amazing plays.
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Re: Galileo 2009

With so many good teams playing during qualifications, you guys think that this year especially, that there's a chance for a mediocre robot who got paired up with great partners each match to be ranked #1? I don't know if its happened before at the Championship, I know it happens at regionals, but how bout at the big show?
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With so many good teams playing during qualifications, you guys think that this year especially, that there's a chance for a mediocre robot who got paired up with great partners each match to be ranked #1? I don't know if its happened before at the Championship, I know it happens at regionals, but how bout at the big show?
I'd say it's possible, however, I've never been to a championship before (I'm a freshman). But I bet it could happen. I doubt it would bring them to #1 but i can imagine the top 8. It's still unlikely.
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I'd say it's possible, however, I've never been to a championship before (I'm a freshman). But I bet it could happen. I doubt it would bring them to #1 but i can imagine the top 8. It's still unlikely.
Naa, top 8 is understandable, but has a team gotten lucky with alliance partners and gotten to 1st seed at Champs?
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Naa, top 8 is understandable, but has a team gotten lucky with alliance partners and gotten to 1st seed at Champs?
It has happened before. I know some will say 1732 in 2007 that got lucky and seeded #1 on Curie. One would be crazy to say we were on the same level of 1114 and 330, but I feel we were one of the better tube scorers and with only seven qualfication matches and an easier schedule, a lot can happen. I'm not sure its a good idea to call out various teams and say their achievements were lucky, though. But yeah, it has happened before a couple of times.
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Us and 102 were by far the best robots at Long Island, and we seeded 1 and 3 accordingly, losing in semi finals together to unfortunate circumstances

It's cool to see us (fairly) far up in that rankings sheet! It'd be awesome just to make eliminations.
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Similar to what I did last year, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 102 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.

When I went back and looked at last year's data, a team finished within 1 standard deviation of their average seed 60% of the time, and within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. Only 3 teams seeded higher/lower then their min/max seed.

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Team  Avg Seed	Median	Mode	StDev	Min	Max	#1 seed	Top 8
67	6.0	4	1	5.7	1	28	42	153
71	7.5	4	1	8.3	1	50	46	138
1195	13.6	11	5	10.9	1	63	11	83
971	14.0	11	2	12.2	1	63	8	82
40	14.8	12	4	11.6	1	52	8	75
716	15.7	13	13	12.4	1	68	10	64
1717	15.9	12.5	9	12.9	1	74	6	70
111	17.6	13	3	14.2	1	61	8	67
207	17.7	14.5	4	14.4	1	80	8	61
987	18.9	15	10	13.7	1	63	7	55
45	19.6	16	11	15.4	1	70	5	57
25	20.4	17	13	14.0	1	66	2	43
1923	21.4	19	4	15.0	1	63	6	52
179	21.8	19	18	15.1	1	78	2	42
704	21.9	19	15	14.6	1	75	3	36
870	22.9	18.5	8	16.1	1	77	3	39
744	23.2	19	16	15.8	1	76	4	41
151	25.7	23	32	16.2	1	85	1	28
1318	25.8	21.5	14	16.5	1	81	2	22
2741	25.8	22	17	16.5	1	73	4	28
1332	27.0	25	10	16.7	1	76	4	30
2348	27.6	27.5	16	16.5	2	76	0	27
1742	28.7	26.5	31	18.3	1	79	1	30
56	29.3	28	14	18.1	1	79	1	24
115	29.7	28	12	16.0	2	68	0	17
2775	31.1	29.5	29	16.1	2	76	0	15
20	31.5	30	44	18.4	1	84	2	23
1208	32.0	29.5	22	18.3	2	84	0	16
1250	32.7	31	26	19.7	1	80	1	22
1477	33.1	31	36	19.1	3	86	0	19
973	35.4	32	14	19.8	2	85	0	13
47	38.6	37	46	18.1	5	82	0	5
708	38.7	36	34	20.1	1	81	1	12
2844	39.1	38.5	39	18.4	3	80	0	9
1745	39.3	37	36	18.4	4	85	0	9
418	39.9	40	27	18.8	1	81	1	6
359	41.0	40.5	45	18.6	2	82	0	6
1941	41.9	40	24	19.8	4	85	0	6
435	42.2	41.5	52	18.9	2	82	0	9
2729	42.4	42.5	34	19.3	3	87	0	2
226	42.5	44	48	18.3	6	85	0	4
555	43.4	44	65	20.2	1	86	1	8
1261	46.1	46	68	19.9	7	85	0	1
2936	46.3	47.5	53	19.1	2	87	0	5
1902	46.6	46	34	19.7	3	87	0	4
2230	47.4	49.5	50	18.4	8	86	0	1
281	48.6	51	69	19.6	4	87	0	3
494	49.1	51.5	70	20.0	1	84	1	5
279	49.4	51	50	19.1	6	87	0	3
1872	49.5	52	57	19.0	6	87	0	3
2214	50.2	51	53	18.2	1	86	1	1
967	50.3	50.5	68	19.5	2	87	0	2
1124	51.2	52	57	17.7	3	86	0	4
1676	51.3	52.5	58	18.8	2	86	0	3
11	51.6	53.5	53	19.0	5	87	0	1
1540	53.0	54	43	17.9	4	87	0	3
65	53.0	55	54	18.3	6	86	0	3
168	53.8	55.5	52	19.6	6	87	0	1
3059	54.2	55	37	18.3	5	87	0	1
815	54.8	55	52	18.1	7	85	0	1
2638	55.9	56	54	19.3	6	87	0	1
303	56.0	57	57	18.0	8	86	0	2
1829	56.4	58	62	18.3	11	87	0	0
1551	56.6	59	69	17.4	8	87	0	1
932	57.5	59	72	18.3	11	87	0	0
1270	57.7	59	78	17.9	9	86	0	0
230	57.7	63	67	19.2	9	87	0	0
1662	59.1	62	73	18.3	7	87	0	1
461	60.0	64	78	19.1	8	87	0	1
2642	61.4	62	81	17.1	6	87	0	1
999	61.8	65	79	16.7	9	87	0	0
1646	62.3	66	66	17.3	11	87	0	0
1598	63.2	66.5	83	16.4	19	87	0	0
440	64.2	69	81	16.7	15	87	0	0
2910	65.0	71	82	16.7	19	86	0	0
1710	67.7	72	86	15.7	9	87	0	0
1601	69.5	73.5	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
1450	70.2	74	85	14.4	18	87	0	0
753	70.2	74	83	14.1	11	87	0	0
2579	70.6	75	81	14.8	12	87	0	0
2234	70.9	75	86	14.5	20	87	0	0
1772	71.9	75.5	85	13.8	11	87	0	0
1836	72.1	75	83	13.6	22	87	0	0
1058	72.5	76	84	13.6	10	87	0	0
1885	76.4	79	87	10.8	23	87	0	0
2550	77.8	82	87	10.4	40	87	0	0
203	80.2	84	87	8.2	44	87	0	0

I must say, I am not opposed to these predictions
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To quote Han Solo in Empire Strikes Back: "Never tell me the odds!" But thanks Joe this is a very interesting analysis.
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Re: Galileo 2009

This year's game is even more prone to a mediocre average definitely creeping up there. And the problem with that is, that the mediocre team generally either
1. messes up the alliances that the other lower seeds might possibly because generally other seeded teams don't want to team up with this seed.
2. or picks a really strong team but the other alliances are stronger and they definitely don't make it to finals, which ultimately kinda dooms the other strong robot that had a chance.

I saw it happen at regionals,

but worlds is a class above regionals and I'm not sure if this is very likely at worlds. Teams bring their best and most times the good robots do end up on top.
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This year's game is even more prone to a mediocre average definitely creeping up there. And the problem with that is, that the mediocre team generally either
1. messes up the alliances that the other lower seeds might possibly because generally other seeded teams don't want to team up with this seed.
2. or picks a really strong team but the other alliances are stronger and they definitely don't make it to finals, which ultimately kinda dooms the other strong robot that had a chance.

I saw it happen at regionals,

but worlds is a class above regionals and I'm not sure if this is very likely at worlds. Teams bring their best and most times the good robots do end up on top.
I've seen this happen before at regionals and the Championship, but not very often. If they really lucked out by seeding where they did, usually their alliance does not go very far, because often the best they can have on their alliance is one good team total(their first pick), because by the time they go again on the serpentine all the other top-notch bots have already been selected. Here, while the division is deep enough that they could still have two good teams on their alliance, there is also the potential for there be some superalliances of three great robots. So again, it isn't that likely for one "lucky" team to have a huge net effect on the outcome of the field.

On another note, the Galileo thread has the most posts in it out of the four divisions- is this a sign that it will be the most spirited field at the Championship?
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