Curie 2009!

[thefro526]

I was having a Discussion with a driver of another Bright Orange team the other day about robot speed and just out of curiosity what are most of your robots geared for? I found out while talking to him I made a minor miscalculation and our robot is about 20% faster then I thought....

Just for reference we're running a Single CIM per side through standard Toughboxes with another sprocket reduction for an effective Gear Ratio of about 11:1. This puts our Speed at about 12fps under Ideal conditions, what about your robots?

[Brad Voracek]

Originally Posted by thefro526

I was having a Discussion with a driver of another Bright Orange team the other day about robot speed and just out of curiosity what are most of your robots geared for? I found out while talking to him I made a minor miscalculation and our robot is about 20% faster then I thought....

Just for reference we're running a Single CIM per side through standard Toughboxes with another sprocket reduction for an effective Gear Ratio of about 11:1. This puts our Speed at about 12fps under Ideal conditions, what about your robots?

Even faster 'eh? =P I might have to bring some new gears with me...!

We're geared straight out of the toughbox's, so 12.5:1. Which is about 10.5fps ideally, I think. It's around there. =P

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by Brad Voracek

Even faster 'eh? =P I might have to bring some new gears with me...!

Brad, the whole point of having Regolith this year was to stop the Drive Train Wars.... But, I'll still pack some extra sprockets just for good measure.

[Raumiester2010]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Brad, the whole point of having Regolith this year was to stop the Drive Train Wars.... But, I'll still pack some extra sprockets just for good measure.

Ya right... my team is one of the ones that i think they created the game to foil our usual strategy (considering we have moved the player station( the reason why they have the ton of Velcro now) and we knocked over a human player station last year(at GLR, it was hilarious ))

im not sure what our gear ratio it, just that is is a weird odd number and we move at ≈9 ft/sec(i think, we made it faster at MSC so it may be that or faster, if you ask me in pits I'll know by then). we have a pair of fisher prices(i think) in the front and a pair of CIMs in the back, geared to the same rate.

(not on drive train so i don't know the exact stuff)

[thefro526]

I hope everyone is excited to Play on Thursday!

Any teams who don't use traction control try to track me down. I'll have a present for you (While Supplies Last of Course)

[HighLife]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Any teams who don't use traction control try to track me down. I'll have a present for you (While Supplies Last of Course)

You better start wrapping for me then.

[ehcualp]

Originally Posted by thefro526

I hope everyone is excited to Play on Thursday!

Any teams who don't use traction control try to track me down. I'll have a present for you (While Supplies Last of Course)

I want. Put me on the list of people to get one! I will give presents in return.

[Joe Ross]

I used each team's average OPR and actual match schedule to predict every match and determine the seeding.

Match	Red 1	Red 2	Red 3	Blue 1	Blue 2	Blue 3	R Score	B Score
1	1165	3105	2815	1675	60	1927	56	63
2	3010	904	188	2877	597	68	98	88
3	1	337	668	1089	1425	1305	72	53
4	2635	2834	1747	70	79	1796	67	87
5	217	1983	922	287	263	131	94	67
6	2884	1024	375	1519	1577	2992	63	79
7	2194	894	816	2621	1099	2590	54	39
8	1527	2039	1806	3115	254	2520	82	56
9	2809	2443	247	1323	1893	190	45	75
10	271	1502	1771	245	75	346	84	86
11	766	175	27	930	1622	2185	90	69
12	1566	2767	1731	2791	329	1013	56	46
13	1108	341	236	141	1288	1429	71	39
14	538	2173	2500	399	1287	830	32	92
15	499	2884	2877	49	395	2590	62	66
16	1	904	1806	2809	287	816	83	72
17	1675	597	337	1099	1024	247	76	47
18	1893	2185	263	70	188	75	59	95
19	60	1323	3115	2767	2621	2834	54	65
20	1288	346	766	2635	1305	1731	67	60
21	2815	1747	271	217	329	1527	75	56
22	538	1108	1622	668	2992	190	76	90
23	1287	395	1577	2443	341	27	76	61
24	2520	245	830	375	175	236	57	95
25	499	1429	3010	1566	2039	930	46	59
26	2173	1013	1425	49	2194	1502	48	54
27	2791	141	1796	254	3105	1983	65	81
28	1771	1927	399	894	79	922	111	71
29	2500	131	1089	1519	68	1165	41	75
30	668	766	247	2884	1806	1747	60	78
31	3115	2809	245	2815	1108	337	69	72
32	287	1288	597	2590	1566	175	71	59
33	1622	2834	217	904	2443	75	102	54
34	2877	3105	1013	1	1429	2635	68	44
35	141	1099	2992	271	922	70	62	72
36	2621	1927	263	3010	830	1527	62	56
37	894	499	1323	375	2791	1287	44	74
38	190	1577	2767	188	2500	1502	65	81
39	79	346	68	1675	27	2173	98	58
40	1983	60	49	341	538	1089	70	45
41	395	2185	2520	329	1425	1165	55	47
42	1796	2194	1893	1731	1771	930	71	86
43	399	1024	816	131	2039	236	98	75
44	254	1519	1622	1305	1747	499	100	59
45	245	1287	1429	287	2884	1927	62	63
46	2877	271	1566	1577	668	894	68	50
47	922	175	2809	49	2767	1675	80	59
48	1	1165	597	766	141	2443	67	46
49	75	27	1288	1323	1796	2520	67	47
50	375	346	1893	2039	337	2500	88	71
51	2621	1983	399	1013	68	2815	105	68
52	2185	1305	131	3105	1502	247	44	51
53	341	2834	1731	1425	1806	2992	71	98
54	2173	190	3010	1771	70	329	60	68
55	2635	2590	254	1024	60	1108	60	65
56	188	2791	1527	2194	1519	538	85	62
57	236	395	904	79	1099	263	90	67
58	217	830	930	816	1089	3115	77	52
59	499	1675	2500	245	2443	1796	50	66
60	597	2520	894	2992	2767	1983	44	91
61	2185	1927	2834	271	49	337	55	69
62	1731	27	2590	1429	247	399	69	74
63	1165	175	2039	2621	2884	2173	90	38
64	1806	1024	346	922	1287	1566	92	52
65	1323	766	287	2877	1771	1089	65	84
66	1747	131	188	1013	395	3115	93	75
67	190	1	75	2815	236	1519	72	78
68	1502	263	60	668	930	2791	60	67
69	1099	1527	375	1622	2809	341	49	78
70	70	1577	3105	904	1288	538	54	53
71	79	1108	2194	217	3010	1305	80	81
72	329	68	2635	141	830	1893	48	64
73	816	2884	188	254	1425	1566	86	64
74	1013	245	922	2834	1165	190	73	73
75	2185	1287	1796	2877	236	60	57	80
76	75	894	287	1747	2500	1731	61	67
77	2590	904	341	131	1771	668	56	80
78	1305	271	930	395	2173	597	63	71
79	49	3115	141	1622	3010	1024	51	86
80	1519	2621	1502	1675	2520	1108	68	51
81	79	2992	1089	2791	1288	2815	85	60
82	375	254	68	766	538	263	88	54
83	2809	27	1927	2635	1983	499	71	65
84	329	2443	337	1806	2194	399	40	108
85	1893	1425	175	217	1099	3105	92	62
86	1323	1577	1527	1429	816	346	44	62
87	2767	2039	830	247	1	70	70	63
88	341	2815	2500	2884	2185	3010	55	48
89	538	1165	2877	1731	1502	1024	67	68
90	3115	2791	75	2173	2590	922	61	37
91	766	131	2194	2834	2809	2520	55	49
92	1983	1099	1108	930	1287	188	65	92
93	263	1771	1747	337	816	27	87	83
94	3105	1089	1566	190	399	375	34	109
95	79	2767	668	499	1893	1527	83	56
96	2992	254	395	1	1675	1323	107	60
97	1013	1305	141	904	1927	175	54	85
98	217	1806	597	245	2635	1577	104	64
99	329	247	2621	1622	1796	287	41	92
100	2443	2039	49	1288	894	68	56	54
101	1425	1429	1519	60	271	830	59	64
102	236	70	668	346	2884	3115	76	62

Rank	Team	Wins	Losses	Ties	Matches	QP	RS	MP
1	188	7	0	0	7	14	68.29	98
2	1806	7	0	0	7	14	59.29	108
3	399	7	0	0	7	14	55.57	111
4	1771	6	1	0	7	12	70	111
5	2992	6	1	0	7	12	62.29	107
6	395	6	1	0	7	12	62.14	107
7	346	6	1	0	7	12	61.57	98
8	236	6	1	0	7	12	61.29	95
9	70	6	1	0	7	12	60.86	95
10	1927	6	1	0	7	12	59.86	111
11	668	6	1	0	7	12	59	90
12	175	6	1	0	7	12	56.86	95
13	1747	5	2	0	7	10	65.86	93
14	217	5	2	0	7	10	62.14	104
15	271	5	2	0	7	10	61.29	84
16	930	5	2	0	7	10	60.86	92
17	1983	5	2	0	7	10	59.86	105
18	1502	5	2	0	7	10	59.86	84
19	1024	5	2	0	7	10	59.29	98
20	597	5	2	0	7	10	58.71	104
21	1519	5	2	0	7	10	58.14	100
22	2039	5	2	0	7	10	57.57	90
23	1622	5	2	0	7	10	57	102
24	60	5	2	0	7	10	55.86	80
25	2767	5	2	0	7	10	55.29	91
26	49	5	2	0	7	10	53.43	70
27	375	5	2	0	7	10	53.14	109
28	830	5	2	0	7	10	52.43	92
29	79	4	3	0	7	8	65.57	98
30	1731	4	3	0	7	8	63.57	86
31	904	4	3	0	7	8	63.43	98
32	2877	4	3	0	7	8	61.86	88
33	816	4	3	0	7	8	61.29	98
34	2815	4	3	0	7	8	61.29	78
35	254	4	3	0	7	8	59.71	107
36	337	4	3	0	7	8	59.71	83
37	75	4	3	0	7	8	59.14	95
38	1893	4	3	0	7	8	58.86	92
39	2194	4	3	0	7	8	55.57	108
40	2791	4	3	0	7	8	53.43	85
41	1287	4	3	0	7	8	53.29	92
42	3105	4	3	0	7	8	51.14	81
43	2621	4	3	0	7	8	49.57	105
44	190	3	3	1	7	7	60.71	109
45	922	3	3	1	7	7	60.14	94
46	1165	3	3	1	7	7	52.57	90
47	27	3	4	0	7	6	64.57	90
48	1108	3	4	0	7	6	62.86	80
49	3010	3	4	0	7	6	61.29	98
50	287	3	4	0	7	6	61	92
51	68	3	4	0	7	6	58.71	98
52	1	3	4	0	7	6	58.57	83
53	2809	3	4	0	7	6	58.29	80
54	131	3	4	0	7	6	58.14	93
55	766	3	4	0	7	6	57.57	90
56	1577	3	4	0	7	6	57.14	79
57	1796	3	4	0	7	6	56.86	92
58	1288	3	4	0	7	6	53.14	71
59	341	3	4	0	7	6	52.71	78
60	2500	3	4	0	7	6	52.57	81
61	1566	3	4	0	7	6	50.14	68
62	245	2	4	1	7	5	65.57	86
63	2834	2	4	1	7	5	60.43	102
64	263	2	5	0	7	4	63.71	87
65	1425	2	5	0	7	4	57.71	98
66	2884	2	5	0	7	4	57	86
67	1675	2	5	0	7	4	54.43	76
68	1527	2	5	0	7	4	54.14	85
69	247	2	5	0	7	4	52.71	74
70	1429	2	5	0	7	4	51.86	74
71	1089	2	5	0	7	4	50	85
72	2443	2	5	0	7	4	50	66
73	1013	1	5	1	7	3	58.29	75
74	1305	1	6	0	7	2	59	81
75	3115	1	6	0	7	2	55.29	75
76	2590	1	6	0	7	2	54.57	69
77	2185	1	6	0	7	2	54.14	69
78	141	1	6	0	7	2	52.14	65
79	894	1	6	0	7	2	51.86	71
80	1323	1	6	0	7	2	51.29	75
81	2520	1	6	0	7	2	50.14	57
82	329	1	6	0	7	2	48.29	68
83	2173	1	6	0	7	2	48	71
84	2635	0	7	0	7	0	58.29	67
85	1099	0	7	0	7	0	55.86	67
86	538	0	7	0	7	0	55.57	76
87	499	0	7	0	7	0	54.57	65

If you don't like the way your team did, don't worry, OPR hasn't proven to be much better at predicting matches then flipping a coin this year.

[Flyin' Axe]

Where did you find the match schedule? Will you please post a link??

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

I used each team's average OPR and actual match schedule to predict every match and determine the seeding.

Match	Red 1	Red 2	Red 3	Blue 1	Blue 2	Blue 3	R Score	B Score
1	1165	3105	2815	1675	60	1927	56	63
2	3010	904	188	2877	597	68	98	88
3	1	337	668	1089	1425	1305	72	53
4	2635	2834	1747	70	79	1796	67	87
5	217	1983	922	287	263	131	94	67
6	2884	1024	375	1519	1577	2992	63	79
7	2194	894	816	2621	1099	2590	54	39
8	1527	2039	1806	3115	254	2520	82	56
9	2809	2443	247	1323	1893	190	45	75
10	271	1502	1771	245	75	346	84	86
11	766	175	27	930	1622	2185	90	69
12	1566	2767	1731	2791	329	1013	56	46
13	1108	341	236	141	1288	1429	71	39
14	538	2173	2500	399	1287	830	32	92
15	499	2884	2877	49	395	2590	62	66
16	1	904	1806	2809	287	816	83	72
17	1675	597	337	1099	1024	247	76	47
18	1893	2185	263	70	188	75	59	95
19	60	1323	3115	2767	2621	2834	54	65
20	1288	346	766	2635	1305	1731	67	60
21	2815	1747	271	217	329	1527	75	56
22	538	1108	1622	668	2992	190	76	90
23	1287	395	1577	2443	341	27	76	61
24	2520	245	830	375	175	236	57	95
25	499	1429	3010	1566	2039	930	46	59
26	2173	1013	1425	49	2194	1502	48	54
27	2791	141	1796	254	3105	1983	65	81
28	1771	1927	399	894	79	922	111	71
29	2500	131	1089	1519	68	1165	41	75
30	668	766	247	2884	1806	1747	60	78
31	3115	2809	245	2815	1108	337	69	72
32	287	1288	597	2590	1566	175	71	59
33	1622	2834	217	904	2443	75	102	54
34	2877	3105	1013	1	1429	2635	68	44
35	141	1099	2992	271	922	70	62	72
36	2621	1927	263	3010	830	1527	62	56
37	894	499	1323	375	2791	1287	44	74
38	190	1577	2767	188	2500	1502	65	81
39	79	346	68	1675	27	2173	98	58
40	1983	60	49	341	538	1089	70	45
41	395	2185	2520	329	1425	1165	55	47
42	1796	2194	1893	1731	1771	930	71	86
43	399	1024	816	131	2039	236	98	75
44	254	1519	1622	1305	1747	499	100	59
45	245	1287	1429	287	2884	1927	62	63
46	2877	271	1566	1577	668	894	68	50
47	922	175	2809	49	2767	1675	80	59
48	1	1165	597	766	141	2443	67	46
49	75	27	1288	1323	1796	2520	67	47
50	375	346	1893	2039	337	2500	88	71
51	2621	1983	399	1013	68	2815	105	68
52	2185	1305	131	3105	1502	247	44	51
53	341	2834	1731	1425	1806	2992	71	98
54	2173	190	3010	1771	70	329	60	68
55	2635	2590	254	1024	60	1108	60	65
56	188	2791	1527	2194	1519	538	85	62
57	236	395	904	79	1099	263	90	67
58	217	830	930	816	1089	3115	77	52
59	499	1675	2500	245	2443	1796	50	66
60	597	2520	894	2992	2767	1983	44	91
61	2185	1927	2834	271	49	337	55	69
62	1731	27	2590	1429	247	399	69	74
63	1165	175	2039	2621	2884	2173	90	38
64	1806	1024	346	922	1287	1566	92	52
65	1323	766	287	2877	1771	1089	65	84
66	1747	131	188	1013	395	3115	93	75
67	190	1	75	2815	236	1519	72	78
68	1502	263	60	668	930	2791	60	67
69	1099	1527	375	1622	2809	341	49	78
70	70	1577	3105	904	1288	538	54	53
71	79	1108	2194	217	3010	1305	80	81
72	329	68	2635	141	830	1893	48	64
73	816	2884	188	254	1425	1566	86	64
74	1013	245	922	2834	1165	190	73	73
75	2185	1287	1796	2877	236	60	57	80
76	75	894	287	1747	2500	1731	61	67
77	2590	904	341	131	1771	668	56	80
78	1305	271	930	395	2173	597	63	71
79	49	3115	141	1622	3010	1024	51	86
80	1519	2621	1502	1675	2520	1108	68	51
81	79	2992	1089	2791	1288	2815	85	60
82	375	254	68	766	538	263	88	54
83	2809	27	1927	2635	1983	499	71	65
84	329	2443	337	1806	2194	399	40	108
85	1893	1425	175	217	1099	3105	92	62
86	1323	1577	1527	1429	816	346	44	62
87	2767	2039	830	247	1	70	70	63
88	341	2815	2500	2884	2185	3010	55	48
89	538	1165	2877	1731	1502	1024	67	68
90	3115	2791	75	2173	2590	922	61	37
91	766	131	2194	2834	2809	2520	55	49
92	1983	1099	1108	930	1287	188	65	92
93	263	1771	1747	337	816	27	87	83
94	3105	1089	1566	190	399	375	34	109
95	79	2767	668	499	1893	1527	83	56
96	2992	254	395	1	1675	1323	107	60
97	1013	1305	141	904	1927	175	54	85
98	217	1806	597	245	2635	1577	104	64
99	329	247	2621	1622	1796	287	41	92
100	2443	2039	49	1288	894	68	56	54
101	1425	1429	1519	60	271	830	59	64
102	236	70	668	346	2884	3115	76	62

Rank	Team	Wins	Losses	Ties	Matches	QP	RS	MP
1	188	7	0	0	7	14	68.29	98
2	1806	7	0	0	7	14	59.29	108
3	399	7	0	0	7	14	55.57	111
4	1771	6	1	0	7	12	70	111
5	2992	6	1	0	7	12	62.29	107
6	395	6	1	0	7	12	62.14	107
7	346	6	1	0	7	12	61.57	98
8	236	6	1	0	7	12	61.29	95
9	70	6	1	0	7	12	60.86	95
10	1927	6	1	0	7	12	59.86	111
11	668	6	1	0	7	12	59	90
12	175	6	1	0	7	12	56.86	95
13	1747	5	2	0	7	10	65.86	93
14	217	5	2	0	7	10	62.14	104
15	271	5	2	0	7	10	61.29	84
16	930	5	2	0	7	10	60.86	92
17	1983	5	2	0	7	10	59.86	105
18	1502	5	2	0	7	10	59.86	84
19	1024	5	2	0	7	10	59.29	98
20	597	5	2	0	7	10	58.71	104
21	1519	5	2	0	7	10	58.14	100
22	2039	5	2	0	7	10	57.57	90
23	1622	5	2	0	7	10	57	102
24	60	5	2	0	7	10	55.86	80
25	2767	5	2	0	7	10	55.29	91
26	49	5	2	0	7	10	53.43	70
27	375	5	2	0	7	10	53.14	109
28	830	5	2	0	7	10	52.43	92
29	79	4	3	0	7	8	65.57	98
30	1731	4	3	0	7	8	63.57	86
31	904	4	3	0	7	8	63.43	98
32	2877	4	3	0	7	8	61.86	88
33	816	4	3	0	7	8	61.29	98
34	2815	4	3	0	7	8	61.29	78
35	254	4	3	0	7	8	59.71	107
36	337	4	3	0	7	8	59.71	83
37	75	4	3	0	7	8	59.14	95
38	1893	4	3	0	7	8	58.86	92
39	2194	4	3	0	7	8	55.57	108
40	2791	4	3	0	7	8	53.43	85
41	1287	4	3	0	7	8	53.29	92
42	3105	4	3	0	7	8	51.14	81
43	2621	4	3	0	7	8	49.57	105
44	190	3	3	1	7	7	60.71	109
45	922	3	3	1	7	7	60.14	94
46	1165	3	3	1	7	7	52.57	90
47	27	3	4	0	7	6	64.57	90
48	1108	3	4	0	7	6	62.86	80
49	3010	3	4	0	7	6	61.29	98
50	287	3	4	0	7	6	61	92
51	68	3	4	0	7	6	58.71	98
52	1	3	4	0	7	6	58.57	83
53	2809	3	4	0	7	6	58.29	80
54	131	3	4	0	7	6	58.14	93
55	766	3	4	0	7	6	57.57	90
56	1577	3	4	0	7	6	57.14	79
57	1796	3	4	0	7	6	56.86	92
58	1288	3	4	0	7	6	53.14	71
59	341	3	4	0	7	6	52.71	78
60	2500	3	4	0	7	6	52.57	81
61	1566	3	4	0	7	6	50.14	68
62	245	2	4	1	7	5	65.57	86
63	2834	2	4	1	7	5	60.43	102
64	263	2	5	0	7	4	63.71	87
65	1425	2	5	0	7	4	57.71	98
66	2884	2	5	0	7	4	57	86
67	1675	2	5	0	7	4	54.43	76
68	1527	2	5	0	7	4	54.14	85
69	247	2	5	0	7	4	52.71	74
70	1429	2	5	0	7	4	51.86	74
71	1089	2	5	0	7	4	50	85
72	2443	2	5	0	7	4	50	66
73	1013	1	5	1	7	3	58.29	75
74	1305	1	6	0	7	2	59	81
75	3115	1	6	0	7	2	55.29	75
76	2590	1	6	0	7	2	54.57	69
77	2185	1	6	0	7	2	54.14	69
78	141	1	6	0	7	2	52.14	65
79	894	1	6	0	7	2	51.86	71
80	1323	1	6	0	7	2	51.29	75
81	2520	1	6	0	7	2	50.14	57
82	329	1	6	0	7	2	48.29	68
83	2173	1	6	0	7	2	48	71
84	2635	0	7	0	7	0	58.29	67
85	1099	0	7	0	7	0	55.86	67
86	538	0	7	0	7	0	55.57	76
87	499	0	7	0	7	0	54.57	65

If you don't like the way your team did, don't worry, OPR hasn't proven to be much better at predicting matches then flipping a coin this year.

[Billfred]

Well, (most of) 2815 is up and ready for another day on Curie. We tried a different sprocket ratio yesterday in a practice match--you'd recognize it by the way the robot hardly moved. We've flipped it back to our original ratio, which seems to be running much better. The hood we've added also appears to do its job well, so we're feeling pretty good about it.

See y'all in Q1!

[Transformix Eng]

Where can I find a link to a live update of the Currie match results?

Thanks
Jeff

[Dmentor]

Originally Posted by Transformix Eng

Where can I find a link to a live update of the Curie match results?

I'm using FRC-spy (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/frcspy.php?) when I'm not watching Curie (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics...-finals-2009/).

[AnthonyN1983]

I don't understand how a team can be ranked in the top 15 during qualification matches and wasn't picked by an alliance. This is ridiculous, don't teams scout?

[Flyin' Axe]

Originally Posted by AnthonyN1983

I don't understand how a team can be ranked in the top 15 during qualification matches and wasn't picked by an alliance. This is ridiculous, don't teams scout?

Not all the teams pick teams depending on their ranking. I am not sure what happened because I am not at Atlanta, but teams may need a robot that can deliver EC cell or can play defense. May be they chose to pick other teams over yours.

Again, I am not sure why you guys were not picked.

[ChrisH]

Originally Posted by AnthonyN1983

I don't understand how a team can be ranked in the top 15 during qualification matches and wasn't picked by an alliance. This is ridiculous, don't teams scout?

Scouting is what wins the Championship. I know that was true for us in 2005. We found a great under rated team in 503. Our scouts were amazed they were still around for our pick.

The field in Atlanta is incredibly deep. There are very many really good robots that are left on the sidelines at the start of Eliminations, a very good percentage of them won one or more Regionals.

There are also many factors besides rank that figure into picks. A really good offensive team might pick a good defender because they need somebody to watch their backs or neutralize and opponent. Defenders do not tend to be ranked as highly. Other teams might want a robot that can both score and defend or possibly a not so strong scorer that can keep the opposition on the run.

An important consideration is "are they used to playing at this level?". There is a reason hat you see certain teams in the Finals over and over. Experience counts for an awful lot. An experienced team can often be a bigger factor in the Finals than a team with a "better" robot, because they know what to do with what they have.

How teams "click" is also a big factor. I know that we have scratched teams off of our list because they were so busy working on their robot they would not even talk to our strategy team, even though we were locked into the top 8 and the other team was not. Their neighbors on the other hand, were happy to talk while they tweaked. Guess who got picked?

It is not always on field performance that makes the difference