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Unread 20-04-2009, 10:24
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Re: Dealing with disapointments

Team 1511 went 5-2-0 on Newton, just as you folks did on Galileo. We were seeded 12th and did some pretty amazing stuff on the field, yet were not chosen during alliance selections. (And there was another team seeded even higher that wasn't chosen - my sincere apologies for not remembering who that was, I'm still sleep-deprived!!)

Was it disappointing? Yes, but the truth is that if you want to be "fairly" rewarded for your accomplishments, you must compete in 1) an individual event, with 2) objective measurements. There's a large amount of luck and subjectivity in FIRST events, and you have to rely not only on your teammates but on other teams that you may be completely unfamiliar with. That means that sometimes you'll get a lucky break, and sometimes you'll be passed over. It's the nature of the competition.

The best consolation is to know that your team did the best it could. If you did your best, learned something, and had fun...well, that's what FIRST is all about!
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Re: Dealing with disapointments

Akash, Im going to give you some advice that I have followed for the last couple years in all that I do.

Fail Faster, Learn More, Focus and Execute

If you guys feel you failed (didn't get picked/pick) then you need to find what lessons you can take from it and how you can improve. Then you need to focus on the CHANGES and Execute them. If you feel your robot wasn't up to par with the other robots consider revising your design process. If you feel your drivers were not as good as they could have been perhaps you need to rethink how you choose them/train them. (I'm not saying either of these was the problem, just stating examples)

Remember, design is an iterative process, you are never done. You can always improve, apply this philosophy to everything you do and sooner or later you will find yourself down on Einstein (or however you measure success)
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Re: Dealing with disapointments

after we went 1-6 on newton,I felt pretty bummed ...

I dont know about you guys really, But loosing makes it easier for me to win next time, because, now I have a even better reason to win

I just remember that I built that robot(with help) and it worked, and thats something alot of people couldent do.......
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Re: Dealing with disapointments

Losing sucks. It even happens to the best of them. Thats all that can really be said. Except for learn from the dissappointments for next year and come back with a vengance.
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Re: Dealing with disapointments

I would say that the first thing is to not feel guilty about being disappointed in an on field performance. Everyone strives to do well and this is a competition. People enter a competition to win after all.

I would suggest 3 methods to help:

1) Make lots of friends on other teams. They can help root for you when you do well, you have friends to cheer for when they do well. It gives you a good support network of people who have been on both sides of the coin.

2) Try to manage your expectations. It is really really hard to do well. 5-2 against some of the best that FIRST has to offer is something to be proud of. It is hard to get noticed even when you do well because there are so many good teams to look at. You could have made a potential division winner out of teams that were not even selected on the Newton field (off the top of my head 1155, 846 & 1511 would have been very competitive). This is just part of the nature of the champioship event.

3) Try to set a non-competition related goal for yourself or your team. Maybe something like a list of specific people to meet, maybe compile information on certain teams designs that you like, maybe some social event where your team hooks up with another team. Something like that can be rewarding as well.

O yeah, and also have fun!

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Perspective- Atleast you made it to Atlanta.
We finished 14th overall in Michigan and actually earned the right to go to Atlanta for the first time. No money,no go. Thankfully we had no seniors on the team to disappoint and next years seniors may have learned a good lesson about funding.
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Re: Dealing with disapointments

I think that a lot of teams on CD are far more developed and successful than the masses of other teams out there. With that said you have to keep your accomplishments or supposed lack there of in perspective. CD is not the norm for team performance.

There are teams that have little to no money and are poorly led that go to a single regional every year not sure if they will drive even half of their matches. I doubt MORT has ever finished at 61st out of 64 teams at a regional. So while you are disappointed think of what you have done and how fortunate you are to have the leadership and money to even put a functional robot down and have a team that flows and you can enjoy being on and learning on.
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Re: Dealing with disapointments

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(And there was another team seeded even higher that wasn't chosen - my sincere apologies for not remembering who that was, I'm still sleep-deprived!!)
That would be us. We were the 11th seed and we didnt make it. If we had won our last match we would have been guaranteed 2nd seed, possibly 1st. We lost by 4 points, but it didnt bother me because I really felt we would get picked. We had some great matches offensively, and played D on 1625, handing their only loss in qualifications. I was disappointed, not because we lost, but because i dont get to drive until next year. Later I realized our record this year was 23-8, WAY better than we have ever done before, and that cheered me up.
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