pic: Chief Delphi - The Last Journey - CDXIV B

[Chris is me]

If the teams were to merge, would they have to be rookies and get a new number? Because little would suck more than losing a spot in the Hall of Fame because your school merged with another great robotics team. Of course, which number and name to pick would also be an issue. What a messy issue.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

If the teams were to merge, would they have to be rookies and get a new number? Because little would suck more than losing a spot in the Hall of Fame because your school merged with another great robotics team. Of course, which number and name to pick would also be an issue. What a messy issue.

I don't think so. I think they'd have to pick a number.

But I prefer Travis's suggestion. Two teams, one school, collaboration optional.

[Kyle Love]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

If the teams were to merge, would they have to be rookies and get a new number? Because little would suck more than losing a spot in the Hall of Fame because your school merged with another great robotics team. Of course, which number and name to pick would also be an issue. What a messy issue.

I would anticipate 47 staying the teams number and 65 leaving. The team image is more what I am interested in. Both teams (47/65) have very well known team spirit. It will be interesting if they decide on orange/black camo pants or if they stick to one or the other.

[Rick TYler]

Godspeed, Chief Delphi.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Kyle Love

I would anticipate 47 staying the teams number and 65 leaving. The team image is more what I am interested in. Both teams (47/65) have very well known team spirit. It will be interesting if they decide on orange/black camo pants or if they stick to one or the other.

Since 47 is moving to 65's school, from the school POV it would seem more logical to keep 65. From a team point of view, I would want to keep 47 as they get grandfathered into The Championship every year.

[Mike Martus]

The status of Team 47 Chief Delphi is a very complex issue. Pontiac Central is closing.... that is certain. All students will attend a single High School ( Pontiac Northern) re-named Pontiac High School. In conversation with the administration (superintendent) There will be a single unified team from the new school.

Several frustrating issues:
1. ALL staff, every employee has been "Pinked Slipped". The school District has not yet decided who or what the new school will be like, or even who will staff it. Even Me with 36.5 years as an educator is at this moment unemployed at the end of the school year. Yes I can retire.........

2. The new school....if I am rehired has yet to designate a space for me to teach or have a team. I am packing 14 years of robotics ... to where???? The New school (Old Pontiac Northern) will not have what I am closing.... 5 large rooms, storage areas, display areas for trophies, Office, display areas for 14 robots. The new school (Old Pontiac Northern) will be crowded above max capacity. There is at this moment no designated space for a team or a class for me.......

3. It appears that the district is eliminating ALL Vocational Education classes - except business, because they can cram 40 + students in a class.
Their philosphy is if a student is failing math, give them 2 math classes, double dose them in all core subjects.... IMHO a very poor path.

As the future unfolds there are many questions that will be answered....

Rest assured that Chiefdelphi.com will survive. The great people at Innovation First have been funding the site for the past few years. Their great support deserves a THANK YOU from all of us. Brandon is still committed to demanding quality in all aspects of this site. Thanks Brandon. you are great!!!!!

BTW..... side note.....

I am extremely proud of my team.... after a long hard season and all the stress, they decided that they wanted to continue the learning experience. Lead by College Mentors... Josh Murphy and James Keifer this additional robot is a work of art built by the STUDENTS>>>>> The entire team embraced my saying" you get out of this program what you put into it". Day after day long afternoons and evenings, very dedicated team members made it happen..... ON THEIR OWN!

True inspriation is the backbone of FIRST and is on display here!

I will make sure the Community of FIRST is kept aprised of events as they unfold to me in the coming days or weeks....... Yes we are in turmoil with a uncertain future.... but so are many other FIRST teams. We need to support and encourage each other the best we can....

More later........

[Alan Anderson]

There are no words to describe the feeling of watching a strong FRC team lose its foundation. I do have a relevant bit of TechnoKats history to relate, however.

In 1998, the team lost its workspace in the school building during some construction. The school approached the local power company to ask for room in their warehouse, and the team has built an amazing workshop there over the past decade. We have enough room for a full-size practice field, we aren't restricted to using the space only during "school hours", and we don't need to worry about whether the custodial staff will leave things alone.

If the Pontiac school is going to be too crowded for a good FRC shop, partnering with a business to use a facility outside school property might be a good step.

[NorviewsVeteran]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

(Moment of silence)

*joins*

[Akash Rastogi]

I think Chief changing schools will show other teams how a real team adapts to change. They won't whine, they won't complain like kids, they'll act and move on, maybe becoming even stronger. (with 65 +47 who knows what can happen )

[PaW]

Originally Posted by Rich Kressly

Namaste, 47. Your people, past and present, remain an inspiration to so many.

Could not have said it better.

It was an honor to be on the same field with you, and a joy to share the stands with your support team.
Newton 2008
Galileo 2009

[mplanchard]

Thank you for doing so much with so little for so many. Marie

[gblake]

Either 47 or 65 could become an independent team (4H club?) disconnected from any school. - A team is not a school and a school is not a team - Good luck!

Blake

[NickE]

Originally Posted by gblake

You know - it is a bit odd that no one has suggested that both 47 and 65 continue to operate.

Several people have suggested it:

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman

Would a 70/494, 2 teams/1 school situation be feasible?

Originally Posted by EricH

I prefer Travis's suggestion. Two teams, one school, collaboration optional.

Originally Posted by Mike Martus

In conversation with the administration (superintendent) There will be a single unified team from the new school.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by Mike Martus

Several frustrating issues:
1. ALL staff, every employee has been "Pinked Slipped". The school District has not yet decided who or what the new school will be like, or even who will staff it. Even Me with 36.5 years as an educator is at this moment unemployed at the end of the school year. Yes I can retire.........

2. The new school....if I am rehired has yet to designate a space for me to teach or have a team. I am packing 14 years of robotics ... to where???? The New school (Old Pontiac Northern) will not have what I am closing.... 5 large rooms, storage areas, display areas for trophies, Office, display areas for 14 robots. The new school (Old Pontiac Northern) will be crowded above max capacity. There is at this moment no designated space for a team or a class for me.......

3. It appears that the district is eliminating ALL Vocational Education classes - except business, because they can cram 40 + students in a class.
Their philosphy is if a student is failing math, give them 2 math classes, double dose them in all core subjects.... IMHO a very poor path.

Mind boggling. I don't understand the trend over the past years to eliminate the vocational education classes and remove the necessary space for movement and development. There is so much that can be learned and gained by working with tools, equipment, and space, all the while obtaining new skills. I'm not getting the math thing either, that would have taken me out. I would have felt totally lost.

To think of all the experience and knowledge gone with a pink slip. Your strength, determination, and courage is something that your team has seen role modeled throughout the history of Chief Delphi and something the rest of us can continue to learn from and be inspired by, Mr. Martus.

Wishing you and 47 the best,
Jane

[Chris is me]

If the school hires the mentors from 47 (and 65 inherits their sponsors and students), but requires the use of the 65 number, would 65 become a Hall of Fame team?