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Re: pic: FRC 1771 jumping into the swerve game

HAHAHA I was hoping you or someone from 1625 wouldn't come on here and tell me something like that. I can definitely see times when I would definitely push for a crab drivetrain, and I am extremely close to having it light enough and easy enough to build so that those aren't significant hurdles.

I guess mainly my point was that unless the game truly calls for crab drive...which many have not, I will not build it. I do think that this past game it could have been advantageous, as well as 2007, although certainly teams did well both years without it. It seems like everyone is jumping on the crab banwagon because its cool without realizing that its only advantageous in certain limited situations and its exponentially more difficult and time consuming to do.

And Raul, your modules have definitely been a huge inspiration for this design.

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Ha-Ha-Ha, famous last words.

My son sometimes reminds me how back in 2002 I said we would never again use 4-wheel crab. We struggled so much with turning with the 2002 design. So what did we do, we used 4-wheel crab on our Championship robot in 2003. And have done so 3 more times since then. The 2003 design is pretty much what we have used ever since, with only slight mods.

In some games, including this year, crab/swerve gives you a distinct advantage if you know how to use it.

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Re: pic: FRC 1771 jumping into the swerve game

I'm gonna vote for avoiding it, both times we've done if ive been sitting there at the end of the year going "shoulda gone 6 wheel"
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Re: pic: FRC 1771 jumping into the swerve game

nice design! But really I'm going to have to agree with you: it's not worth it. I keep telling our freshman over and over again, "tank drive can do anything", and then I see them giggling over crab modules. They are cool, REALLY COOL, but not worth the time that could be put into a more refined everything-else-on-the-robot that will go a lot farther towards success.
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I'm gonna vote for avoiding it, both times we've done if ive been sitting there at the end of the year going "shoulda gone 6 wheel"
I couldn't agree more, my team has done swerve the past two years, they were both fairly efective, but if I could do it again, I'd have done 6 wheel skid both years.
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