Trivial FIRST ...FIRST is not trivial!

[J93Wagner]

I sorta have to agree with Chris and most of the previous posters, while the monopoly/Trivial Pursuit is a good idea, The profit margin would either be so small that you have to sell a lot of boards to make a profit, or if from scratch, you would have to sell a lot to break even.

[kitfisto92]

We found a pretty decent way (price wise) of getting game boards a few days ago actually, and cards are easy to get too but we're more interested in who's interested in trivial pursuit for FIRST specifically.

While I agree monopoly would be AMAZING, it'd be extremely biased toward team's that we know, which is better at a state/region basis. And picking only certain teams would be hard because it'd be on a partnership or well-known (chairman's winners/national champions) basis. So, in that case, a lot of teams would be missed in some form of a judging process. Which is why i feel its unfair to teams, especially rookies.

With that in mind, I feel its better to explain our trivial pursuit in a little more detail:
Our plan is to have questions about FIRST in general, and some other categories (there are six total), but MOST IMPORTANTLY, a question about EVERY TEAM out there.
And we're willing to do the research on it; we basically are curious of who's interested. And how much you would be willing to spend on it. This will help us to know if we should order bulk supplies with a custom game board or create an expansion deck.

So, post below if any of those ideas appeal to you. Thank you

[ATannahill]

I would probably be interested in just buying the expansion deck to quiz myself or my team. Maybe divide the teams into regions? I am not sure if I would paid 10 dollars more for a board.

[afowl]

Originally Posted by kitfisto92

We found a pretty decent way (price wise) of getting game boards a few days ago actually, and cards are easy to get too but we're more interested in who's interested in trivial pursuit for FIRST specifically.

Actually, right now cards are the problem. I think I've found a way around it but I won't know for a few days. We've found out that we can actually get vinyl game boards for pretty cheap (depending on how many are ordered) and then they would be easy to take along with you too. Any one like the idea?

[kitfisto92]

The categories we are considering are listed below:

Pop Culture: Questions about FIRST teams and the "FIRST culture"; example: What company does Dean Kamen work for? (DEKA)
FIRST (in general): Questions about/relating to FIRST; example: What year was FIRST founded in? (1989)
FIRST in the Media: All about FIRST gaining recognition by society; example: What national champion team had a guest appearance on the popular Canadian show, Degrassi? (Team 1114: Simbotics)
Teams: All about teams (one for each); example: Name the team that hosts and manages the "unofficial FIRST forums." (Team 47: Chief Delphi)
Technical :Questions about engineering and programming concepts (aka super-nerd-stuff); example: Robots are programmed through this computer software program. (LabVIEW)
Non-Technical: Questions about anything not relating to the robot, including common knowledge, awards criteria, and anything else FIRST related; example: What percentage must your website score to get website excellence? (80%)

Does anyone see this as fun for you and your team or anyone in particular that you know (like your coach)?

[EricH]

What? No FRC Games Category, with questions like, "What year saw the floor covered in corn?" (1993, Maize Craze)

I do see that that could wind up in "Non-Technical", but I find it hard to believe that the "Technical" Category would have lots of questions. (Also, note that you'll want to specify a year on the example question, and that particular one has at least 2 answers for this year, with C++ being the other--another thing about technical stuff is that there's rarely a single right answer.)

I'd probably see it as fun, but only because I know too much...

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by EricH

What? No FRC Games Category, with questions like, "What year saw the floor covered in corn?" (1993, Maize Craze)

That's 1992.

[Chris is me]

Maize Craze was 1992.

FIRST in the media woud be a really shallow category. That could be replaced with game rules.

[Karibou]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

I would probably be interested in just buying the expansion deck to quiz myself or my team.

This was my initial thought. I"m such a nut, I'd be interested in it just to see how much I don't know about FIRST, then proceed to astound everyone else when I actually know the answers to odd FIRST questions [: If it goes into production this year or even next year (assuming you can end up with a good profit margin, etc), I could probably even turn it into a team-building event...nothing like bonding over geeky trivia.

I can't see a lot of questions in FIRST Media. The 1114 one was pretty well-known by the community, but most media exposures are more obscure. I'd rather see a FRC Games category, including game objects, rules, etc.

Also, for team specific questions...
What team is -somewhat- famous for having a smoking robot at the 2006 Great Lakes Regional?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPCTEajtnIw
We're just cool like that.

[Molten]

With response to how much I'd spend...honestly not alot. The last time I had enough people around with nothing to do to play trivial pursuit was a family gathering like 5 years ago.

Also, the idea of having all teams with ? is generous, but thats a ton of ?'s and alot of teams don't really get heard about outside of their area. I'd rather see more questions on teams that are semi-well known.

Just a bit of constructive criticism(I hope it was constructive) and good luck with it.

[kitfisto92]

I'm going to try to answer all your questions in one massive block of explanation
NOTE: what i posted above is what we were thinking about as categories, and before we actually set anything in stone

We haven't decided placement of specific things, such as games, but we will DEFINITELY include it somewhere. I don't see it as a separate category, just a large chunk of a different one.

The media category expands into public exposure, including questions about FIRST place, and more public things in FIRST. Its probably not going to be "in the media" as much as it sounds, but more general and surprising as a whole

The FIRST in general category will most likely be the one with game "stuff" as i'll call it.

And as far as the team section goes, it will have something including every team, completely unbiased, and more general knowledge about them. Its the section that actually gave us the idea for this game, so its our primary goal to make this section.

But right now, before we write any questions (or set anything in stone), we're more concerned about the interest level and what a reasonable cost to YOU is, before we start to actually develop the game. Thanks for the suggestions

[idk]

I think an expansion pack or even a FIRST Jeopardy would be a good idea. Maybe one that can be played on the computer or on the tv. I would pay between 10 and 20 dollars depending on what "style" you went with. Maybe you could have safety rules as a category? There are some pretty well-known rules that would be good.

This sounds like a great idea. I have a feeling that you will only be able to sell it within the FIRST community though. I can't wait to see where this goes. Please keep on putting up updates so teams all the way in NH can buy them!

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by idk

I think an expansion pack or even a FIRST Jeopardy would be a good idea. Maybe one that can be played on the computer or on the tv. I would pay between 10 and 20 dollars depending on what "style" you went with. Maybe you could have safety rules as a category? There are some pretty well-known rules that would be good.

This sounds like a great idea. I have a feeling that you will only be able to sell it within the FIRST community though. I can't wait to see where this goes. Please keep on putting up updates so teams all the way in NH can buy them!

Now THAT I could go for

I remember seeing something on these forums that seemed very similar.

If it has a really nice GUI for it and has a giant question bank I wouldn't mind paying 10 bucks for a download hosted from a team's website. The questions could also be suggested and validated by admin. This would also allow you to have video, picture, and sound questions. IE: Picture of a robot with its number erased...

[Chris is me]

I think there are open source Jeopardy! client programs available, if I recall correctly, that allow this kind of thing to happen. Being able to purchase (or just use) question sets would be kind of cool? Though that doesn't really seem like a good fund raiser anymore.

I want to play FRC Monopoly...

[kitfisto92]

We recently discussed where we saw this going, and found that the categories were very similar (in some cases) and noted that there were some technical issues as far as questions were concerned. Because of this, we decided to change the categories (slightly).
The NEW categories
Games: all about FRC games, ranging from rules, names, and various other game related topics; example: Hexagon Havic was played in what year? (1997)
Engineering: questions about engineering, robot specs, gear ratios, etc.; example: What were the dimension restrictions for the 2009 game Lunacy? (38" by 28" by 60")
Programming: ALL about programming; example: The popular LabVIEW software was introduced to FIRST teams in what year? (2009)
Pop Culture: Questions about FIRST teams and the "FIRST culture," including its involvement in society (merged with the media category); example: What company does Dean Kamen work for? (DEKA)
Non-Technical: Questions about anything not relating to the robot, including common knowledge, awards criteria, and anything else FIRST related (primary focus is awards criteria); example: What percentage must your website score to get website excellence? (80%)
All About FIRST: Questions about/relating to FIRST; example: What year was FIRST founded in? (1989)

In addition, in the best interests of costs and restrictions on printing of cards, we decided to cut the count in half, so there would be 500 question cards, instead of 1,000. We also discussed adding a "all about FIRST teams" expansion set later on, depending on the success of the game above.