New Game Hint? - Crackerjacks, Haagen-Dazs cups and Diet Coke cans?

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by a kenny03

they could... but FIRST isn't that maen...ok wait, changed my mind. (grrr stupid moon rocks!!!) but they have always been around the same footprint size, so why change it that radically? the going green strategy is a nice thing, but its not worth it to change it that much...

Actually, FRC robots used to be much smaller. But I doubt that going green would be the only reason, face it, FRC robots are expensive to build partly because of their scale. They are hard to practice with because of the size of the field. They are hard to transport too. There are benefits to making them smaller. On the other hand, one of FRC's eventual goals is to be a spectator event, smaller robots are not conducive to this goal, they are not as impressive. FIRST would walk a fine line here between impressiveness and cost cutting.

You are correct though, FRC dimensions have been roughly the same size (meaning within a few inches in a given dimension) for the last couple years, what better reason to change things then? Cuz yes, FIRST is that mean. (I blame Dave)

[EricH]

Originally Posted by a kenny03

they could... but FIRST isn't that maen...ok wait, changed my mind. (grrr stupid moon rocks!!!) but they have always been around the same footprint size, so why change it that radically? the going green strategy is a nice thing, but its not worth it to change it that much...

Actually, they haven't. In 1992, the robots were smaller than the 2009 control system.

Some other game-changing rule changes: Pre-1998, you could intentionally detach parts. Pre-1999, matches were 1v1v1. Pre-2002, metal on carpet was legal. Pre-2005, matches were 2v2 and robots were 30"x36"x60" (changed from 36"x36"x60"). Pre-2006, you could have wedges on your robot, and bumpers were counted in your size and weight--and you had to develop your own.

As far as the GDC being that mean, at least three of them have the pure evil genius rating, and the rest are simply pure evil. Never take anything for granted, including the ability to use metal on robots and the ability to use threaded fasteners. (One of the GDC actually made comments to this effect on CD. Neither has actually happened...yet.)

[Karibou]

Originally Posted by EricH

Never take anything for granted, including the ability to use metal on robots and the ability to use threaded fasteners. (One of the GDC actually made comments to this effect on CD. Neither has actually happened...yet.)

Going green by saying that we have to build our robots out of wood? Man, that would screw a lot of people over and completely even the playing field :/

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

This was a rule a couple years back. But FIRST doesnt HAVE to give us anything, they could come out and say we have an 18" by 18" by 18" cube we have to fit in, cant expand outside it. Have fun.

That sounds extremely close to VEX/FTC to me (though I don't know much about that program, I could be way off) :/ maybe they would do it if they hadn't just given us a fancy new control system to use.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Karibou

That sounds extremely close to VEX/FTC to me (though I don't know much about that program, I could be way off) :/ maybe they would do it if they hadn't just given us a fancy new control system to use.

It should sound like VEX/FTC that is where I got the dimensions. But you know in '92 the control system was off board, nothing says we can't have tethered robots.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Karibou

Going green by saying that we have to build our robots out of wood?

Who said anything about wood? The materials list will be papyrus and cornstarch. Have fun!

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Who said anything about wood? The materials list will be papyrus and cornstarch. Have fun!

Can we use water?

[NorviewsVeteran]

Can we use water?

Only hard water.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by NorviewsVeteran

Only hard water.

With extra set aside for that plop plop fizz fizz moment that is hovering, near, and loaded.

[dlavery]

Originally Posted by Karibou

Going green by saying that we have to build our robots out of wood?

If... she... weighs... the same as a duck ... she's made of wood.

And therefore? ...






.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by dlavery

And therefore? ...






.

We're burning heretic robots!

[Karibou]

Originally Posted by dlavery

If... she... weighs... the same as a duck ... she's made of wood.

And therefore? ...






.

Dave Lavery just responded to one of my posts. I think that I might die.

So our robots have to perform witchcraft? I can see it now: "Hello operator, I'd like to get a hold of a certain Albus Dumbledore. You see, I need him to 'program' our robot. What do you mean, I have to wait!? WHAT!? 1114 already has him? That explains a lot..."

[Mr. Pockets]

Originally Posted by Karibou

Going green by saying that we have to build our robots out of wood? Man, that would screw a lot of people over and completely even the playing field :/

I'd find it somewhat ironic if they chose to "go green" by replacing a recyclable resource with a renewable resource (shrugs).
That would be pretty neat though, though I'd think it would also lead to less robust robots (or maybe I'm just ignorant of the physical strengths of wood).

Originally Posted by dlavery

If... she... weighs... the same as a duck ... she's made of wood.

And therefore? ...






.

It...is capable of playing a water game?

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pockets

I'd find it somewhat ironic if they chose to "go green" by replacing a recyclable resource with a renewable resource (shrugs).
That would be pretty neat though, though I'd think it would also lead to less robust robots (or maybe I'm just ignorant of the physical strengths of wood).

Wood is actually quite useful as a building material. If memory serves, check out RAGE sometime. Also, Spruce Goose. If you don't know what this is google it.

[Karibou]

Speaking of wood/fire...
We certainly don't want THIS happening again (Nathan reminded me of it ). And that was with a metal robot...

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by Karibou

Dave Lavery just responded to one of my posts. I think that I might die.

Don't even consider this. If you do, I'll be left with 2 left shoes and that will never do.

*sigh* heroes...