Go to Post These teams aren't elitists, but they sure are elite. - [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Other > FIRST Tech Challenge
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 27-10-2009, 13:11
Rick TYler Rick TYler is offline
A VEX GUy WIth A STicky SHift KEy
VRC #0010 (Exothermic Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Redmond, Washington
Posts: 2,000
Rick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond repute
Re: [FTC]: DC Motor Speed

Quote:
Originally Posted by John_1102 View Post
In order to acheive max speed use large to small gear ratio because direct connecting the battery to the motor will give you the max speed of the motor.
If I remember correctly, last year the TETRIX folk warned against gearing up drivetrains using the 12-volt motors after a series of gearhead failures. They recommended either direct-driving or gearing down the motors. This was a recommendation for drivetrains, so I'm not sure if they make similar suggestions for other applications. We broke three gearheads last year on a geared-up drivetrain and the problems went away when we changed to a slower design.

I know a lot of teams are planning on heavily gearing up wheels to shoot balls this year (including our own FTC team) and I expect it to work pretty well since the intertia of a whiffle ball is a lot lower than that of an entire robot. Just in case, we have a stock of spare 12-volt motors and a design that lends itself to rapid swaps.
__________________
Exothermic Robotics Club, Venturing Crew 2036
VRC 10A, 10B, 10D, 10Q, 10V, 10X, 10Z, and 575
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-10-2009, 10:59
JohnFogarty's Avatar
JohnFogarty JohnFogarty is offline
Trapped under a pile of MECANUMS :P
AKA: @doctorfogarty
FTC #11444 (Garnet Squadron) & FRC#1102 (M'Aiken Magic)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: SC
Posts: 1,580
JohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond repute
Re: [FTC]: DC Motor Speed

I do remember that, we blew 2-3 motors ourselves even one at nationals. It really depends on what you need the motor to do. Like if all you want to speed up is a wheel then it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
__________________
John Fogarty
2010 FTC World Championship Winner & 2013-2014 FRC Orlando Regional Winner
Mentor FRC Team 1102 M'Aiken Magic
"Head Bot Coach" FTC Team 11444 Garnet Squadron
Former Student & Mentor FLL 1102, FTC 1102 & FTC 3864, FRC 1772, FRC 5632
2013 FTC World Championship Guest Speaker
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-10-2009, 12:31
Richard Wallace's Avatar
Richard Wallace Richard Wallace is offline
I live for the details.
FRC #3620 (Average Joes)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 1996
Location: Southwestern Michigan
Posts: 3,664
Richard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond reputeRichard Wallace has a reputation beyond repute
Re: [FTC]: DC Motor Speed

Quote:
Originally Posted by John_1102 View Post
I do remember that, we blew 2-3 motors ourselves even one at nationals. It really depends on what you need the motor to do. Like if all you want to speed up is a wheel then it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Whether it is a problem will depend on the size of the wheel and the function it performs. A large traction load on a big wheel could easily overheat a geared-up motor. That is why it is much more common practice to gear down.
__________________
Richard Wallace

Mentor since 2011 for FRC 3620 Average Joes (St. Joseph, Michigan)
Mentor 2002-10 for FRC 931 Perpetual Chaos (St. Louis, Missouri)
since 2003

I believe in intuition and inspiration. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly speaking, a real factor in scientific research.
(Cosmic Religion : With Other Opinions and Aphorisms (1931) by Albert Einstein, p. 97)
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 28-10-2009, 12:36
JohnFogarty's Avatar
JohnFogarty JohnFogarty is offline
Trapped under a pile of MECANUMS :P
AKA: @doctorfogarty
FTC #11444 (Garnet Squadron) & FRC#1102 (M'Aiken Magic)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: SC
Posts: 1,580
JohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond repute
Re: [FTC]: DC Motor Speed

The thing i find funny is at the end of last year we took apart one of our broken motors and they are geared down to the slowest speed possible.
__________________
John Fogarty
2010 FTC World Championship Winner & 2013-2014 FRC Orlando Regional Winner
Mentor FRC Team 1102 M'Aiken Magic
"Head Bot Coach" FTC Team 11444 Garnet Squadron
Former Student & Mentor FLL 1102, FTC 1102 & FTC 3864, FRC 1772, FRC 5632
2013 FTC World Championship Guest Speaker
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[FTC]: Rhode Rage (FTC 121) is in need of a motor encoder wire Rick FIRST Tech Challenge 2 02-02-2009 01:56
Motor speed sensing with the Jaguar motor controller? mminutto FRC Control System 5 13-01-2009 18:13
[FTC]: Random Error with FTC motor control Xaphiinia FIRST Tech Challenge 2 01-12-2008 15:39
[FTC]: FTC Servo-Motor Problem with Labview dnhansen FIRST Tech Challenge 1 26-10-2008 00:43
[FTC]: [FTC] Motor Controller problems michael714 FIRST Tech Challenge 4 14-10-2008 00:33


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:57.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi