Registration 2010

[waialua359]

I'd bet its the economy.
Hawaii has just 2 out of State teams sign up so far. That is a huge drop in just its 3rd year.

[ralcony]

Yeah, I am aware of 78, but posts 4 and 5 (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=78494) make it seem that 121 would still be a team this year.

I believe 121 is on the wait list for the GSR. I have heard rumblings that the GSR wait list is in the process of being reviewed so we should know soon

[Jared Russell]

Could Mark, Chris, or anyone else post the list of veteran teams that have not registered yet? Just wondering.

Thanks!

[Mark McLeod]

It's not quite as bad as all that.
Although growth is down by maybe half under last year, certainly due to economic reasons.
We (Team 358) did chose WPI over DC because it's so much cheaper for us, so Glenn must be seeing similar fallout.

Registration (1501) is currently ahead of last year at this same time by about 8%, or you can think of it as being 10 days ahead of last year. Most of the gain over last year is actually due to veteran teams returning, rather than rookies.

I'll add the list of missing teams as an attachment to this post around lunchtime when I'll have some time away from work. I don't want to inadvertantly, through no fault of my own, qualify for the Autodesk signup...

Attached (now) is the list of 357 missing teams that played last year.
Based on one past report at this time, there are probably another ~30 teams that registered, but don't yet show up on the full list of teams.
Some, such as 10 Long Island teams, are just invisible because they are sitting on our local regional waitlist.

Of course other teams, e.g., Israel, are traditionally late in registering. Teams 47 and 65 are only there because they merged into a new team.

Here's what the chart looks like so far...

[Jared Russell]

Thanks Mark.

[yodameister]

Just based on a quick glance of the list, I see 100 rookie numbers from 2009...scary.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

148 new rookies

Originally Posted by yodameister

Just based on a quick glance of the list, I see 100 rookie numbers from 2009...scary.

Not every rookie team gets a 'rookie number'.

Mark, how does the pace of rookie registration for 2010 compare with recent years?

[I recall your 300 Spartans post one or two years ago. Will we see 300+ rookies this year?]

[yodameister]

Originally Posted by Richard

Not every rookie team gets a 'rookie number'.

Yeah, I knew that, that is why I said rookie number and not number of rookies.

[Mark McLeod]

Originally Posted by Richard

How does the pace of rookie registration for 2010 compare with recent years?

[I recall your 300 Spartans post one or two years ago. Will we see 300+ rookies this year?]

Does not look like FRC will make it to 300 new teams this year, just shy of it though.
Looks like it's midway between the '06 and '07 registration numbers.

That'd give us roughly 296 new teams this year, so maybe it'll peak at 300.

New teams at this same registration point in time:

• 172 - 2009 (this year)
• 220 - 2008 (final headcount 320)
• 208 - 2007 (final headcount 317)
• 130 - 2006 (final headcount 264)

[Wayne C.]

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod

Does not look like FRC will make it to 300 new teams this year, just shy of it though.
Looks like it's midway between the '06 and '07 registration numbers.

That'd give us roughly 296 new teams this year, so maybe it'll peak at 300.

New teams at this same registration point in time:

• 172 - 2009 (this year)
• 220 - 2008 (final headcount 320)
• 208 - 2007 (final headcount 317)
• 130 - 2006 (final headcount 264)

Of greater interest is how many veteran teams no longer come back

rookie teams are like kids - making them is easy but raising them to maturity can kill you

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by Wayne C.

Of greater interest is how many veteran teams no longer come back

While that may be true in general, I would like to know the status of many of the 2009 rookie teams that formed here in Texas and if they will be returning for the 2010 season.

[Mark McLeod]

Originally Posted by Wayne C.

Of greater interest is how many veteran teams no longer come back

Registration of veterans to date is about even with this same time last year, give or take maybe 10 vets.
9 resurrected vets have returned so far this year.
The final count for missing vets over the past several years:

• -165 in 2008 (last year)
• -133 in 2007
• -112 in 2006

Originally Posted by JaneYoung

I would like to know the status of many of the 2009 rookie teams that formed here in Texas and if they will be returning for the 2010 season.

I know you've been concerned about starting lots of new teams without an infrastructure to sustain them.

Texas is still missing 18 teams that were rookies last year, trailing other areas.
Last season there was only a single 2008 Texas rookie that didn't return.
Here are counts of just the 2009 rookies, by area, that haven't signed on for 2010 yet:

AL                1
AZ                2
CA                5
CO               1
CT                1
DC                4
GA               3
HI                 2
ID                 2
IL                  2
IN                 1
IS                  14
LA                2
MA              2
MI                4
MN              6
MO              2
MS               1
NM              1
NY               6
OH               3
OK               3
ON               4
PA                1
PL                 1
QC               1
TN                1
TX                18
WA              5
WI               1
WV              1

[waialua359]

Our team is hosting a potential rookie teams workshop this weekend.
We're hoping to get about 7 new Hawaii FRC teams in the mix.
2024 is coming back under their old no. 1056.
We will be with them in Japan next week for a VEX tournament.

On second thought, maybe teams are cutting back on long distance regionals they attend due to the economy.
The NASA grant is a great support for registration fees. I hope that continues indefinitely......

[JaneYoung]

Thank you, Mark!
You rock.

[Akash Rastogi]

Thanks for all this information Mark, it just gives even more backing to why I started EWCP last year (also caused by your data). Wayne is so right, right now rookie teams mean barely anything to me when I see how many veterans (some of them long time veterans) have not returned for the new season.

Thank you.