[BB]Award Changes for 2010

[Jared Russell]

Expanded software options for a CAD/design award would be most welcome

EDIT: But does this mean the end of animation??

[Ryan Dognaux]

Originally Posted by Jared341

Expanded software options for a CAD/design award would be most welcome

EDIT: But does this mean the end of animation??

Design Excellence, to me, would definitely focus on the Inventor side of Autodesk's products and I'm not sure how animation would fit into this. We won't know for sure until the awards description is released, but I hope to see the animation component stay for this award. Maybe they're going to relate the animation aspect to specifically animating robot-related things. But you can do that in Inventor, so who knows - guess we'll see soon enough. I'd like to see the animation competition stay, it attracts a unique group of students to FIRST.

[Greg Needel]

Originally Posted by Jared341

Expanded software options for a CAD/design award would be most welcome

I am EXTREMELY happy about this. There are too many teams who use pro-e and solidworks (both which directly support FIRST) to just ignore them. I think this will make the judging process very interesting but I think it is definitely a step in the right direction.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

I am EXTREMELY happy about this. There are too many teams who use pro-e and solidworks (both which directly support FIRST) to just ignore them. I think this will make the judging process very interesting but I think it is definitely a step in the right direction.

I'm stoked to see this happening. Its like FIRST is actually listening to teams now

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I meant specifically the Coopertition Award. Say 1714 collaborated mutually with Other Wisconsin Team next year. Coopertition at its most extreme. Who gets the award in a mutual-gain exercise in coopertition, rather than a "haves helping have nots" system?

Chris, just wait until the award documents are released. There's no use in assuming things about the award and discussing hypothetical situations when 1.its not a big deal and 2. the specifics will be out soon.

[Kevin Thorp]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

I am EXTREMELY happy about this. There are too many teams who use pro-e and solidworks (both which directly support FIRST) to just ignore them. I think this will make the judging process very interesting but I think it is definitely a step in the right direction.

I might be wrong, but I seriously doubt Autodesk will allow competitive software to be used in a contest they sponsor. What's more likely is they'll post a general design challange and let teams use any combination of Autodesk software (Inventor, 3ds Max, Maya, etc.) to create their entries.

[Greg Needel]

Originally Posted by Kevin342

I might be wrong, but I seriously doubt Autodesk will allow competitive software to be used in a contest they sponsor. What's more likely is they'll post a general design challange and let teams use any combination of Autodesk software (Inventor, 3ds Max, Maya, etc.) to create their entries.

Realistically I could see this happening, but if autodesk really believed in inspiring youth to learn science and technology it shouldn't matter what software students learn CAD on. In the long run engineers will use whatever software the company that hires them uses. And anyone who really knows and uses CAD on a regular basis understand that the techniques to make a proper use able model don't change software to software. When you play in the Parametric modeling realm the differences stem from the locations of the button, the order of operations, advanced features (which most free seeds don't include) and the subsequent linked packages (CAM).

If you REALLY know cad, it does not take much time to move from one piece of software to another. Teaching students the techniques and basics should be the goal, not worrying about which icons they hit to get there.

[DonRotolo]

Originally Posted by BrendanB

Unless you got twins and made them say that same things.

Oooh! We have a set of twins on the team!

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

I'm stoked to see this happening. Its like FIRST is actually listening to teams now:yikes.

Yes, it DOES seem that we are starting to see more and more examples of transparency from FIRST.

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

if autodesk really believed in inspiring youth to learn science and technology it shouldn't matter what software students learn CAD on.

Perhaps, but the guys holding the purse strings aren't so easily convinced.

In some cases the software you use at work depends on what the company owns, but there are plenty of examples where employee X convinced management to buy software Y because s/he was familiar with it and knew it could solve problem Z.... <Ka-ching, another $ale>

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by Don Rotolo

Oooh! We have a set of twins on the team!
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Great! Now just collaborate with a another team, and have one of the twins go to the other team during the competition and act like this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4-O-tLsCDo

[Jason Law]

Does anybody know if the control system seminar/webcast is going to be recorded? I looked at the WPI website, but I couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Jason Law

[Rich Kressly]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

I am EXTREMELY happy about this. There are too many teams who use pro-e and solidworks (both which directly support FIRST) to just ignore them. I think this will make the judging process very interesting but I think it is definitely a step in the right direction.

I'm guessing, since Autodesk is still the sponsor and since they're giving us more software this year, that we'll still be using only Autodesk products - we'll just have a wider array to choose from.

[Mr. A]

Originally Posted by Jared341

Expanded software options for a CAD/design award would be most welcome
EDIT: But does this mean the end of animation??

I am also concerned about what is happening with animation. We have had a strong annimation team in the past, and many students eager to work on it this year. We also have been accumulating equipment for the purpose and are working on a render farm.

Hope we hear more soon!

[Elgin Clock]

"Coopertition™ Award
The Coopertition™ Award celebrates the team that best demonstrates the ability to help their opponents compete. In the inaugural year of the Coopertition Award, the award will be granted to the team that earns the most Coopertition Bonus points during the competition."

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...p%20Awards.pdf

Also in section 5: The Awards.
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...wards_RevA.pdf