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How about teams that went undefeated (until championship) in a single season, but participated in more than one regional?
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How about teams that went undefeated (until championship) in a single season, but participated in more than one regional?
25 in 2006 comes to mind immediately. They went through New Jersey, Las Vegas, and Friday in Atlanta before taking their first loss of the season on Saturday morning.
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Well, I don't know about the greatest distance traveled, but I do know the shortest!
Team 1967 Janksters walks to and from SVR every day of competition since our school campus is only 10-15 minutes walking distance from the SJSU Event Center
397 is <1 miles away from Kettering District I wouldn't want to measure walking distance, it is cold during competition season. 1506 is in the building across the street and can take the tunnel most of the way to the competition. (For anyone who hasn't seen KU/heard about it, we have a tunnel that goes to 3/5 of our buildings so going outside is nearly completely optional)
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In terms of highest score in a match, I think it's pretty hard to judge year-to-year due to physical limitations on scoring (i.e. a limited number of game pieces), as well as the actual point value of the game piece in question. In 2006, every time a ball was scored, it could be recycled onto the field and scored again, which led to some extremely high scores. However, in 2009, there was a limited supply of moon rocks; once they were scored, they were scored, and could not be re-entered into the field of play. In 2008, a single hurdle could get your team 8 points, whereas in 2007, the scoring system was slightly more complicated in that it was dependent on the number of tubes in a row or column.
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WPI is hosting a regional this year, and their campus is not too large. I'd give them a 5 minute walk from their shop to the field house, tops.
Not even that, more like 1 minute.

Also, I believe the most number of awards earned by a single team in a season goes to 64 The Gila Monsters, with 13 in 2005.
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As far as dominant robots go, it is hard to argue against Team 1114, Simbotics, in 2008. Three regional championships and then the World Champions. Doesn't get much more dominant than that! Just check out Blue Alliance to see how dominent they were, we know as we ran into them twice during the season... Unfortunately for us!
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As far as dominant robots go, it is hard to argue against Team 1114, Simbotics, in 2008. Three regional championships and then the World Champions. Doesn't get much more dominant than that! Just check out Blue Alliance to see how dominent they were, we know as we ran into them twice during the season... Unfortunately for us!
Eh. This is an interesting topic. Yes 1114 was very good in 2008, but I wouldn't say that they were the best robot from that year (16, 67, and 330 immediately come to mind) and I would not call them dominant. I would say that dominant would be every tournament you went to you won without any loses and faced some really good teams in the process. Several teams that year were able to stop them with defense that season, if those teams hadn't played defense they would have won.

These are my thoughts on the matter, other people will have their opinions on these statements, but I don't believe that just because they won 3 regionals and a championship means that they are dominant robot. 1024 also won 3 regionals and made it to einstein as well.

1114- Good robot? Definitely a strong robot.

1114- Dominant? No, they were not the best on the field.

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1114- Good robot? Definitely a strong robot.

1114- Dominant? No, they were not the best on the field.

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I have to agree but only due to poor terminology. 1114 was not the best robot they were the best team. 1114 did not win because their robot was "made of pure win" they won because they knew how to play the game. They scouted, they practiced, they strategized, and they executed. Winning a match is not something a robot does, winning is a team effort that requires the cooperation of dozens of individuals.
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A bunch of teams got together at the 2009 SD regional and built a robot for a team from Brazil (3032) in about 6 hours. I don't think anyone timed it but that has to be close to a record.
It was a completely student driven effort and a great display of caring amongst several teams. Team 3032 passed inspection on Friday morning and ended up in about 18th place, if I remember correctly.
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I have to agree but only due to poor terminology. 1114 was not the best robot they were the best team. 1114 did not win because their robot was "made of pure win" they won because they knew how to play the game. They scouted, they practiced, they strategized, and they executed. Winning a match is not something a robot does, winning is a team effort that requires the cooperation of dozens of individuals.
I've got to ask, can you name a better 2008 robot? 1114 was in my mind the best robot / drive team combination, but I can't think of a robot better suited to playing Overdrive than 1114's robot.

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I would say that dominant would be every tournament you went to you won without any loses and faced some really good teams in the process. Several teams that year were able to stop them with defense that season, if those teams hadn't played defense they would have won.
7 losses all season isn't dominant? They won Midwest, a stacked event with 16 / 1024 / 33 / 111 / 71; went an entire regional without scoring under 100 points (GTR), undefeated in a VERY stacked division, and it took an unfortunate tipped teammate to give them their only loss in Atlanta. I fail to see how that's anything short of dominant. If anything, 1114 was one of the best at scoring THROUGH defense in 2008. I just don't get how you can look at their record and go "well they were good but not amazing"

Even Beatty 2002 lost matches.
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If anything, 1114 was one of the best at scoring THROUGH defense in 2008. I just don't get how you can look at their record and go "well they were good but not amazing"
I'm with Chris. Most dominant robot I have seen in my six years of FIRST.
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I've got to ask, can you name a better 2008 robot? 1114 was in my mind the best robot / drive team combination, but I can't think of a robot better suited to playing Overdrive than 1114's robot.
Better robot from 08? IMHO:

71, 254, 968, 217, & 1625

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I'm with Chris. Most dominant robot I have seen in my six years of FIRST.
But like Andrew said, you couldn't beat the robot/driver/team combination, if you really think about it, Simbotics was the most dominant team in 2008. Its not about the robot, its how you use the robot that counts.

Again, in my opinion, telling someone that they have the most dominant TEAM is more of a compliment than just telling them they have a dominant robot.
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I'm with Chris. Most dominant robot I have seen in my six years of FIRST.
Agreed.

Their scoring in teleop might have been on par with about half a dozen teams out there, but the consistency of their auton was unmatched.
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