FIRST records

[Raul]

Originally Posted by EricH

I guess somebody needs to tell FIRST that they've got the team info page wrong, then. The team page (where I got my initial information) shows that they only won quality; the event page shows the win. 6 for 6 it is.
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They also have a mistake for us - it does not show that we won regional chairmans at Midwest in 2006.

Also note that there are very few teams to pull off the FRC Triple Play award combination (RCA, WFFA, and Regional Champion at the same event). 1114 did it at the 2008 Waterloo Regional; I think that 217 did something similar back around 2005, but can't remember whether or not it was at one event.
Wildstang's done it at Midwest before I think (2006), and maybe HOT. (This is my big secret mega goal for 1714 this year but the odds of it happening are nil)

We also did it in 2005.

[JB987]

987 posted triple in 2008 at LVR. I bet there are more out there than you think who accomplished this or even back to back triples...

[Collin Fultz]

A cool stat to see as well would be how many teams have posted the "career" triple crown, winning a regional, RCA, and WFFA, even if not at the same event or even in the same year. My guess is there would be quite a few of these teams.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by EricH

Also note that there are very few teams to pull off the FRC Triple Play award combination (RCA, WFFA, and Regional Champion at the same event). 1114 did it at the 2008 Waterloo Regional; I think that 217 did something similar back around 2005, but can't remember whether or not it was at one event.

MOE also did this in 2005 at the Philly Regional (which was, coincidentally, was the year where the game was called Triple Play as well)

[Raul]

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli

BrendanB,

You have a right to your opinion, but in my 10 years of FIRSTonly two robots come to mind with the word domination: 71 in 2001 and 1114 in 2008.
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Paul

I agree with Paul on this. 71 in 2001 was thee most dominant design I can ever remember. They absolutely nailed it when it comes to the perfect design and strategy for the game. 1114 is a close 2nd in nailing the design and strategy for a game, in 2008.

And as long as we are discussing 71, 1114 and records, how about the biggest upset ever in FIRST? I say it is this year when 2041, 1732 and 1652 coming out of nowhere to beat none other than 71, 1114 and 1000 in the 1st round of elims at Midwest. They were badly beat the 1st match and figured out the strategy to win the last 2

[Eric O]

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli

Ever since the Championship divisions were created, we have made it to the Championships elimination rounds every year although we did not deserve to go in 2004.

That's an impressive record in itself. Anyone know what other teams make this list?

Taking that a step further, it would be interesting to see what teams have finished most consistently at championship. These stats would be interesting for both "of all time" and since 2001 (Divisions). I have started the list:

Wins: 71 (4), 71 (3)
Top 2: 71 (5), 71(4)
Top 4: ???, 177/217 (5)
Top 8: ???,???
Top 16: ???,???

Anyone have the time to fill in the rest and/or correct/confirm my information? Calculating this as a percentage of years involved could also be interesting (With a minimum of 4 or 5 years of participate to be included). This would jump the newer, but outstanding teams like 1114 up the list.

On a different, but related note, 25,177 and 217 are all not currently on the Championship list. 25 and 177 are on the waitlist and 217 is from Michigan.

-Eric

[Cory]

Originally Posted by EricH

That makes it a tough streak to beat: every regional event they've been in, they've won.

I don't think it can be beat.

Previously I believe 254 held the longest initial win streak at 5 between 1999 and 2002.

Originally Posted by Eric O

That's an impressive record in itself. Anyone know what other teams make this list?-Eric

I know 254 has. I'm pretty sure 111 has. 71? Did they make elims in 03?

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by Eric O

That's an impressive record in itself. Anyone know what other teams make this list?

Since the advent of alliances in 1999 here are the teams who have made the elimination rounds every year:

33
71
111
175
254

(Neat fact 33, 111 & 254 were all on the same alliance in 2001)

If you restrict the time period to since the establishment of divisions in 2001, the list grows to the following group:

33
71
111
175
217
254
469

2006 was a rough year for many top teams. If you remove 2006 from the equation, Teams 45, 67 & 68 would all be on these lists.

[Akash Rastogi]

25 had the triple win at Trenton in 2006.

What's the largest drive wheel ever used in FRC?

[Aren_Hill]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

25 had the triple win at Trenton in 2006.

What's the largest drive wheel ever used in FRC?

Striker 101 is sponsored by a wheelchair company i believe, i've seen them with some 20+" diameter wheels

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Raul

And as long as we are discussing 71, 1114 and records, how about the biggest upset ever in FIRST? I say it is this year when 2041, 1732 and 1652 coming out of nowhere to beat none other than 71, 1114 and 1000 in the 1st round of elims at Midwest. They were badly beat the 1st match and figured out the strategy to win the last 2

I think it's a big upset in that "they beat 71 and 1114", though 3 capable scorers generally can beat two excellent scorers and an absolute non scorer in Lunacy. I think the upset was magnified by the unfamiliarity of Lunacy. Still a massive upset and incredible achievement; can't exactly think of a bigger upset (though pre-serpentine quarterfinal upsets are probably greater accomplishments).

[Ian Curtis]

1108, 447, and 492 are the only 8th seed to ever beat the 1st seed in Atlanta before the advent of the serpentine draft (Galileo, 2005). I watched it happen, but I don't remember any particularly big gameplay moments (but then again, I was pretty short and sitting in MOE territory while they were playing ), just afterwards being like, "that was weird" and looking it up on CD to find I'd witnessed FIRST history.

At regionals, IMHO there is a much greater potential for bad picks by unprepared top seeds and always has been. While some of these wins may be remarkable, I'd venture a decent portion of them are based in partly on the poor picks of others.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

I think it's a big upset in that "they beat 71 and 1114", though 3 capable scorers generally can beat two excellent scorers and an absolute non scorer in Lunacy. I think the upset was magnified by the unfamiliarity of Lunacy. Still a massive upset and incredible achievement; can't exactly think of a bigger upset (though pre-serpentine quarterfinal upsets are probably greater accomplishments).

False. Consider when that third non scoring bot plays D on either of the 3 "capable" robots, you are essentially playing a 2 on 2 match with two mediocre scorers against two phenomenal machines.

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

False. Consider when that third non scoring bot plays D on either of the 3 "capable" robots, you are essentially playing a 2 on 2 match with two mediocre scorers against two phenomenal machines.

I meant to mention "with defense from each of the capable robots", because if you shut down one threat in a 2 v 3 scoring match, you can outscore them (especially if you're proficient at scoring while playing defense like 1732). It's not a predictable result of that matchup (maybe I should just get rid of my old post, it's hard to word what I think correctly. I'm am engineering student after all)

[Ian Curtis]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

False. Consider when that third non scoring bot plays D on either of the 3 "capable" robots, you are essentially playing a 2 on 2 match with two mediocre scorers against two phenomenal machines.

I'm willing to bet that the large majority of "absolute non-scorers" would play the sort of defense that would have Derek & Brian jumping for joy at all the scoring opportunities.