[FTC]: 5 or 10 point goal?

[PhilBot]

In my mind, the Outer goal has the highest scoring potential, but it also assumes your opponents will let you get into scoring position.

Assume you are waiting in front of the ball chute to collect the bonus ball. What's stopping a heavy brute-bot from just planting themselves 1" behind you and keeping you there. It's not pinning because you can still move, just not very far

At least the 5 point goal is accessible in autonomous, and much harder to block.

Seems to me that you need a "get some points" safety play to go with the "hoard and dump" play. At Nationals we saw some great robots who filled up with pucks and then got blocked from scoring. Not so likely in early qualifying rounds, but very common in eliminations.

Also, there's nothing stopping an opponent from sitting in front of your ball chute and preventing you from getting the bonus ball. So, now High goal auto balls have the same point value as the outer goal.

All I can say is .... Scout, Scout, Scout...

Phil.

[JohnFogarty]

In perspective of what my team is doing we have a way of making our shooter shoot in any Goal, though our main strategy will be to collect balls throughout the match and fire the entire payload into the off-feild goal which we have figured out a way to make impossible to block the shooter. Autonomous will basically be driving around collecting balls. A thing I did last year though didn't have success with it because we didn't have the time to try, is to have like 15 different autonomous programs so you will have more options.

Another thing to consider is you won't be partner with the best teams all the time. Last year in 2-3 of our matches we were basically the only robot working. It came to the point sometimes where were killing the other alliance so much we had to score the other alliance points so we would get the Match point.

John

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by John_1102

In perspective of what my team is doing we have a way of making our shooter shoot in any Goal, though our main strategy will be to collect balls throughout the match and fire the entire payload into the off-feild goal which we have figured out a way to make impossible to block the shooter.

Never say impossible in FRC. I really doubt this game has a chokehold. Some team will stop you, somehow, in a way you never thought of.

Interesting side note: Nothing in the current rules prohibits clamping to the field border if I read them correctly.

Autonomous will basically be driving around collecting balls. A thing I did last year though didn't have success with it because we didn't have the time to try, is to have like 15 different autonomous programs so you will have more options.

That kind of auton sounds really inconsistent depending on if you're lucky enough not to hit another robot, have balls that happen to be in the robot's way, etc. Unless you guys have another clever solution for that one like above. Perhaps you won't be collecting balls from the floor per se...

Another thing to consider is you won't be partner with the best teams all the time. Last year in 2-3 of our matches we were basically the only robot working. It came to the point sometimes where were killing the other alliance so much we had to score the other alliance points so we would get the Match point.

Since FTC has the unfortunate ruling that only alliance captains advance to the Championship (IMO a very flawed implementation but whatever), building a robot to assist an alliance in some unique fashion is worthless since you might get picked, but you won't be a captain if you're very good at helping only very good partners.

[JohnFogarty]

The last part of you statement is wrong we won SC FTC Championship and our alliance partner made it via Teir Lottery. Though true indefinitly only the alliance captain is garanteed a spot.