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Re: I Kept Quiet for far too long. This. Is. WA!!!

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Not against FIRST. Against the corrupt Michigan FIRST group. It's like the difference between Al Qaida and Al Qaida in Iraq. Same name, same goals, different organization.
I, as someone who had, has, and will continue to have high hopes for the success of FIRST in Michigan and across the globe must say that I hope you realize that not everyone in Michigan is "corrupt" some of us truly care.

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MI VC is gutless, MI has no regional director anymore, just the Board which refuses to talk with me, Michigan has no oversight from HQ AFAIK. So I went to the top. Thank you for your comment on my tone. I aimed to keep emotion out of what is already a tangled, messy situation.
Sorry Dan but I would hope that personal attacks were beneath you. Regardless of whether the VC is actually gutless you shouldn't say it. Having doubts, disagreements, or concerns is fine but insults undermine your credibility and add nothing to your argument.
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Actually, I wrote it in March, sent it in August, and continue to stand by practically every word in it. Both rtfgnow and Formerly Famous are partially correct on my motives.
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Everyone else, if CD isn't the appropriate place for FIRST related discussions that affect a large percentage of us, then where is? Frankly, what I'm asking CD is - what the heck is a person in our situation to do? If anyone has any better ideas on what I should have done (other than going to hell), I'd love to hear them.
As someone who has seen Dan at several events and talked to him about similar things I don't think he wants war against FIRST or that he wants FiM to fail. I think (and he can correct me if I am wrong) that he wants it to succeed thinks openness is a requirement. I remember parts of this letter from a discussion in Atlanta. I don't think Dan is angry, he sees a wrong and is trying to right it. Plus, if there is a problem we shouldn't just ignore it. If someone who has been involved in FIRST as long as Dan sees a problem and it eats away at him for 8 months and he goes so far as to write a letter to FIRST HQ and have a phone conversation he is clearly not just complaining.

If FIRST HQ sees fit to respond to this we shouldn't just disregard it. CD is a place for discussion. This isn't internal team politics, this is stuff that affects every last one of us. If it isn't good to discuss it and get word out I want to know why.
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Last edited by Andrew Schreiber : 29-11-2009 at 02:08. Reason: Thanks Akash, I misplaced that apostrophe. :)
 


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