Go to Post Soon, some of those teams will learn to rise about current and former powerhouses. - Akash Rastogi [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 4 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-11-2009, 20:25
rbrown1 rbrown1 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Rex Brown
FRC #1730 (Team Driven)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Lee's Summit MO
Posts: 65
rbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant futurerbrown1 has a brilliant future
Definition of a FIRST Mentor

I'm presently putting together a presentation trying to get people to step up and help mentor a team. Looking for a a good definition of "FIRST Mentor". What would your definition of a FIRST Mentor be?
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-11-2009, 20:59
ATannahill ATannahill is online now
Registered User
AKA: Alex Tannahill
no team
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Southfield, Michigan
Posts: 3,213
ATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond reputeATannahill has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

I remember in 2008 there was a promo video that siad "Volunteer + Love = Mentor".

My personal definition of Mentor is "a professional that works in a job and assists students with a project related to their line of work."

Mechanic helping to build the robot
Writer helping with chairman essay
Chef helping prepare meals
Cheerleader getting students active in the stands
The list goes on
__________________

- Arizona North
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-11-2009, 21:24
Phoenix Spud's Avatar
Phoenix Spud Phoenix Spud is offline
Everyone. Everywhere.
FRC #3132 (Thunder Down Under)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 702
Phoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond reputePhoenix Spud has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

To me a FIRST mentor is a person who lives up to the expectations of FIRST. They inspire and recognise all the students efforts. They encourage when needed. They help the students design, build, test, write, draw, program, etc. The thing that defines a FIRST mentor vs. any other type, is that they put the students FIRST (pun intended ) and show GP in everything they do.
__________________
Sarah Heimlich
Outreach Mentor | Business Mentor
FIRST® TEAM 3132
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-11-2009, 21:56
Mr. Pockets's Avatar
Mr. Pockets Mr. Pockets is offline
Optimist Alumnus
AKA: Nathan
FRC #1189 (Gearheads)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: May 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Southeast Michigan
Posts: 551
Mr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond reputeMr. Pockets has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

A true mentor is somewhere between a coach, a teacher, a parent, and a friend. He/she is a person who their students look up to for help and advice. They are someone who can show a student their potential and inspire that student to prove them right.

A mentor-to-be however probably would find that a bit of a high bar to reach. I'll have to work on a less-daunting-but-still-true definition.
__________________
Year 1: Learned about Projects
Year 2: Learned about People
Year 3: Learned about Pride
Year 4: Learned about Promise


I came to robotics for the robot, but stayed for the people

2012/13 Melancholic retiree and wistful dreamer
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-11-2009, 22:02
gblake's Avatar
gblake gblake is online now
6th Gear Developer; Mentor
AKA: Blake Ross
no team (6th Gear)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,933
gblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond reputegblake has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

The description I like the best is to be the guardrails on the road the students drive the team along.

I agree with that person in that I always want to encourage the students to take the reins and test themselves. I want them to learn by doing and hopefully learn when to ask for help.

However, as that other mentor pointed out, when $10,000 to $50,000 of student/sponsor money is being spent, instead of letting them learn by catastrophically failing (i.e. driving the car into the ditch), mentors supply the guardrails that put them back on course when they stray dangerously far afield.

The guardrails need to be close together when the team is learning something new or putting something valuable/important at risk. They need to be far apart when the students are following the right processes and are managing themselves well (inexperience might lead to sketchy/imperfect outcomes, but attentive students' learning/efforts are leading to improvements)

In summary, my take on "Mentors are the guardrails"
  • Show the students how to do what they need to do
  • Step back and let the students do what they need to do
  • Nudge them back on course when they need a nudge
  • Insist, when necessary, that no one tries to juggle the chainsaws
Blake
__________________
Blake Ross, For emailing me, in the verizon.net domain, I am blake
VRC Team Mentor, FTC volunteer, 5th Gear Developer, Husband, Father, Triangle Fraternity Alumnus (ky 76), U Ky BSEE, Tau Beta Pi, Eta Kappa Nu, Kentucky Colonel
Words/phrases I avoid: basis, mitigate, leveraging, transitioning, impact (instead of affect/effect), facilitate, programmatic, problematic, issue (instead of problem), latency (instead of delay), dependency (instead of prerequisite), connectivity, usage & utilize (instead of use), downed, functionality, functional, power on, descore, alumni (instead of alumnus/alumna), the enterprise, methodology, nomenclature, form factor (instead of size or shape), competency, modality, provided(with), provision(ing), irregardless/irrespective, signage, colorized, pulsating, ideate
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-11-2009, 22:20
JaneYoung JaneYoung is offline
Onward through the fog.
no team
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Austin, TX USA
Posts: 5,996
JaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond reputeJaneYoung has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

This is a thread started by Mark McLeod and it has a lot of insight and some humor. He created a white paper containing the information.

(Mark also created a thread titled, A Student Is.... It gives additional and valuable insight.)

I thought perhaps you would enjoy the read.
Good luck with your presentation. It is a worthwhile endeavor.

Jane
__________________
Excellence is contagious. ~ Andy Baker, President, AndyMark, Inc. and Woodie Flowers Award 2003

Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved.
~ Helen Keller
(1880-1968)

Last edited by JaneYoung : 30-11-2009 at 22:34. Reason: white paper link and A Student Is...
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-12-2009, 10:01
JesseK's Avatar
JesseK JesseK is offline
Expert Flybot Crasher
FRC #1885 (ILITE)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Reston, VA
Posts: 3,608
JesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond reputeJesseK has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

A mentor isn't afraid to show excitement about problem solving. That's leading by example while inspiring.
__________________

Drive Coach, 1885 (2007-present)
CAD Library Updated 5/1/16 - 2016 Curie/Carver Industrial Design Winner
GitHub
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-12-2009, 10:44
Unsung FIRST Hero
RoboMom RoboMom is offline
people expediter on Team Kluge
AKA: Jenny Beatty, no relation
no team (they are all my teams)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,066
RoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond reputeRoboMom has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

Description on usfirst.org:
http://www.usfirst.org/community/vol....aspx?id=11576

FIRSt Mentoring Guide: http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...ng%20Guide.pdf

The volunteer office also wrote a description of a mentor last summer that was supposed to go out to new mentors when they registered. I haven't seen the finished product, but you could inquire.
__________________
Co-Founder of NEMO (Non-Engineering Mentor Organization) www.firstnemo.org
Volunteer Director, STEMaction, Inc. www.stemaction.org
FIRST Senior Mentor: Nov. 2004 to June 2009: "Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again"
This is How I Work: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2862
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-12-2009, 10:44
Nick Lawrence's Avatar
Nick Lawrence Nick Lawrence is offline
Commander Canada
FRC #3940 (CyberTooth, AndyMark)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Kokomo, IN
Posts: 711
Nick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond reputeNick Lawrence has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

I'd say the volunteer who guides the student to the well of opportunities that refuses to run dry, that is FRC.

-Nick
__________________


Alumnus of 1503 Spartonics
Founding Mentor of 5406 Celt-X
Mechanical Design Mentor of 3940 CyberTooth
Emceeing events since 2013 - come say hi!

Success doesn't always equate to match wins. It's about the wins off the field.
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-12-2009, 10:50
Phalanx's Avatar
Phalanx Phalanx is offline
Formerly Team 1089 (Mercury)
AKA: Michael Reffler
FRC #5431 (Titan Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Lewisville, TX (previously NJ)
Posts: 384
Phalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond reputePhalanx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

I'm quoting from what I wrote up(with some help) years ago for the Team(1089) I mentor and it's posted on our web site.... This iswhat we call our Mentor Mission Statement

The role and objective of a mentor is to inspire students to create, evolve and grow through use of science and technology. By doing so, mentors strive to help students become more than they already are. Mentors teach and guide students in communication, teamwork, and marketing, as well as designing, building, and operating a robot. They also impart life skills that will serve the students not only today and within the confines of FIRST Robotics, but throughout their entire life and professional career.

One mentor goal is to actively share wisdom and knowledge with the students to foster intellectual growth. A mentor exists to coach, teach, and observe students while remaining ready to step in as needed. He or She is expected to facilitate instruction and allow students to do the majority of the work. It is the job of the mentor to nurture the students and create an environment to facilitate the greatest student achievement. A mentor facilitates opportunities for fund raising and community outreach, promoting and spreading the message of FIRST in both team activities and outside engagements.

It is also important for the mentor to provide an atmosphere of open communication and trust where the students are empowered to think creatively, independently, and voice their opinions. A mentor is expected to show trust and respect to every student, while fostering the same trust and respect in themselves. They are expected to be positive role models for students and provide that model through example, as well as strive to maintain a positive attitude and optimistic outlook at all times. As a result, a mentor will have a profoundly positive impact on the students, the schools, and the community.
__________________
Don't just ask the experts, become one!
Leadership is not about ability. It's about responsibility!
Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe. It's okay we do Quantum Physics


Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-12-2009, 14:42
Denman's Avatar
Denman Denman is offline
Tie Wrap-Not Cable Tie or Zip tie
AKA: Stephen Denman
FRC #0759 (Systemetric)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 817
Denman has much to be proud ofDenman has much to be proud ofDenman has much to be proud ofDenman has much to be proud ofDenman has much to be proud ofDenman has much to be proud ofDenman has much to be proud ofDenman has much to be proud ofDenman has much to be proud of
Send a message via ICQ to Denman Send a message via AIM to Denman Send a message via MSN to Denman Send a message via Yahoo to Denman
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

Quote:
Originally Posted by gblake View Post
The description I like the best is to be the guardrails on the road the students drive the team along.

I agree with that person in that I always want to encourage the students to take the reins and test themselves. I want them to learn by doing and hopefully learn when to ask for help.

However, as that other mentor pointed out, when $10,000 to $50,000 of student/sponsor money is being spent, instead of letting them learn by catastrophically failing (i.e. driving the car into the ditch), mentors supply the guardrails that put them back on course when they stray dangerously far afield.

The guardrails need to be close together when the team is learning something new or putting something valuable/important at risk. They need to be far apart when the students are following the right processes and are managing themselves well (inexperience might lead to sketchy/imperfect outcomes, but attentive students' learning/efforts are leading to improvements)

In summary, my take on "Mentors are the guardrails"
  • Show the students how to do what they need to do
  • Step back and let the students do what they need to do
  • Nudge them back on course when they need a nudge
  • Insist, when necessary, that no one tries to juggle the chainsaws
Blake
This is a brilliant post
Quoted just for how good it is
__________________
I am an ex-member of team 759.
759: regional winners with 522 and 233 NYC (2004)


FIRSTWiki.org - Contribute, learn, inspire.

"Teach the way of the GP and the way of the GP shall teach you" - Me
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-12-2009, 19:58
Wayne C.'s Avatar Unsung FIRST Hero
Wayne C. Wayne C. is offline
hey- I think we did pretty good?
FRC #0025 (Raider Robotix)
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Rookie Year: 1997
Location: North Brunswick, N.J.
Posts: 1,530
Wayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond reputeWayne C. has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

When it all hits the fan the mentor is the guy handing out the raincoats and goggles.
__________________
you want that robot to do what?

Raider Robotix- www.raiderrobotix.org
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-12-2009, 20:24
Rion Atkinson's Avatar
Rion Atkinson Rion Atkinson is offline
The CAD Guy
no team
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 386
Rion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond reputeRion Atkinson has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of a FIRST Mentor

Personally I would give this description.

FIRST Mentor - An individual of no particular skill-set who wishes to inspire young students to believe in themselves and strive to be something in life.
__________________
‎‎"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein
Start Something

Email - rionatkinson@gmail.com
Skype - Rion.Atkinson
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
**FIRST EMAIL**/Senior Mentor Teleconference 9/15 - FRC Mentor Orientation 101 KathieK FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 0 12-09-2009 11:44
**FIRST EMAIL**/FRC Senior Mentor call: Mentor Orientation, 101 Mark McLeod FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 10 04-09-2008 08:06
**FIRST EMAIL**/FTC Senior Mentor call: Mentor Orientation, 101 KathieK FIRST Tech Challenge 0 29-08-2008 12:55
**FIRST EMAIL**/Volunteer Position Posting - FIRST Senior Mentor Pat Fairbank FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 4 10-09-2004 21:37
FIRST and Success: A Question of Definition Madison General Forum 70 27-11-2002 08:42


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:16.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi