Go to Post I think the best driver team of the post season would be Mike Wade and Pete Baltzell- because they have been driving that NASA field all over the Northeast so all of us can play.Thanks guys!! - Wayne C. [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-12-2009, 12:04
Unsung FIRST Hero Woodie Flowers Award
Chris Fultz Chris Fultz is offline
My Other Car is a 500 HP Turbine
FRC #0234 (Cyber Blue)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 1942
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 2,831
Chris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond reputeChris Fultz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Public School Teams that allow Private School students to join

We can not have private / home schooled students on the team.

We are a school team, sanctioned by the school and we meet on school property, etc.

From a legal liability issue, discipline, etc., if they are not a student at the school, then we really have no authority for them. Mentors are taking a lot of "personal risk" working with teams, and the school system umbrella provides a lot of protection if something goes wrong.

I would personally be worried about traveling with a student that did not have to adhere to the school code of conduct and other rules.
__________________
Chris Fultz
Cyber Blue - Team 234
2016 IRI Planning Committee
2016 IndyRAGE Planning Committee
2010 - Woodie Flowers Award - Championship
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-12-2009, 12:30
Karibou Karibou is offline
Steel is love. Steel is life.
AKA: Kara Bakowski
FRC #0341 (Miss Daisy)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Conshohocken, PA
Posts: 1,851
Karibou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond reputeKaribou has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Karibou
Re: Public School Teams that allow Private School students to join

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fultz View Post

I would personally be worried about traveling with a student that did not have to adhere to the school code of conduct and other rules.
Could you perhaps make it a team rule that the school code of conduct has to be followed at all times? If it's a team rule, they would have to follow it, regardless of the school (make the school's policy YOUR policy). Any punishments (should they need to happen) may have to be tweaked a little bit, though.
__________________
Kara Bakowski
Michigan Technological University///Materials Science and Engineering '15///Go Huskies! #tenacity
kabakowski(at)gmail(dot)com
FRC 341 (2016-present): Mechanical/build mentor
Volunteer (2010-present): MAR Seneca '17, FTC Hat Tricks Qualifier '16, Brunswick Eruption '16, MAR Montgomery '16, MAR Westtown '16 Portcullis Victim, MAR Springside-Chestnut Hill '16, Ramp Riot '15 '16, FiM Escanaba District '14 '15, MidKnight Mayhem '13 '15 '16, FiM Detroit District '13, IRI '10 '12, FiM Waterford District '11 '12, MARC '12, CMP Galileo '11
FRC 1189 (2008-2011): Team Captain, Pit Crew, Website group leader, Team Education group leader, Proud Alum. We've got spirit, yes we do...


WMWBS '10 '11
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-12-2009, 12:47
IndySam's Avatar
IndySam IndySam is offline
Registered User
FRC #0829 (Digital Goats)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Indy
Posts: 3,352
IndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond reputeIndySam has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Public School Teams that allow Private School students to join

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karibou View Post
Could you perhaps make it a team rule that the school code of conduct has to be followed at all times? If it's a team rule, they would have to follow it, regardless of the school (make the school's policy YOUR policy). Any punishments (should they need to happen) may have to be tweaked a little bit, though.
Chris is correct.
It's more than just adhering to school policy it's the blanket coverage of liability that comes with being associated with the school and it being a school activity. It brings protection for mentors and teachers that they wouldn't have otherwise.
__________________
"Champions are champions not because they do anything extraordinary but because they do the ordinary things better than anyone else." —Chuck Knoll


2015 Indianapolis District Winner
2014 Boilermaker Regional Industrial Design Award
2013 Smoky Mountain Regional Industrial Design Award
2012 Boilermaker Engineering Excellence Award
2010 Boilermaker Rockwell Innovation in Control Award.
2009 Buckeye J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2009 Boilermaker J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2008 Boilermaker J&J Gracious Professionalism Award
2007 St Louis Regional Winners
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-12-2009, 17:34
Meredith Novak's Avatar
Meredith Novak Meredith Novak is offline
Registered User
no team (Arkansas FIRST)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Mountain Home, AR
Posts: 663
Meredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond reputeMeredith Novak has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Public School Teams that allow Private School students to join

Quote:
Originally Posted by IndySam View Post
Chris is correct.
It's more than just adhering to school policy it's the blanket coverage of liability that comes with being associated with the school and it being a school activity. It brings protection for mentors and teachers that they wouldn't have otherwise.
True on the liability. We do not meet on school property and our non-profit carries a liability policy. It is very inexpensive for several million dollars worth of coverage. (Great, now everyone is lawyering up to sue the Bomb Squad - new fundraising idea. )
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-12-2009, 17:48
Wetzel's Avatar
Wetzel Wetzel is offline
DC Robotics
FRC #2914 (Tiger Pride)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: DC
Posts: 3,522
Wetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond reputeWetzel has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Wetzel
Re: Public School Teams that allow Private School students to join

I worked with 1884, which was a two school team with a private school and local public school located across the road from each other. The private school provided most of the money, while the public school provided the shop space. That collaborative effort by both schools makes it successful, rather than just having students join "the other schools team." A joint venture might be more appealing to the administration.


Wetzel
__________________
Viva Olancho!
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-12-2009, 17:58
rsaitz rsaitz is offline
Registered User
no team
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 9
rsaitz has a spectacular aura aboutrsaitz has a spectacular aura aboutrsaitz has a spectacular aura about
Re: Public School Teams that allow Private School students to join

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetzel View Post
I worked with 1884, which was a two school team with a private school and local public school located across the road from each other. The private school provided most of the money, while the public school provided the shop space. That collaborative effort by both schools makes it successful, rather than just having students join "the other schools team." A joint venture might be more appealing to the administration.


Wetzel
this comment and others like this is anew idea that i may explore. however, the private school definitely has students from all over the region, not just from our community. But it's definitely an idea to pursue. thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-12-2009, 20:05
Rick TYler Rick TYler is offline
A VEX GUy WIth A STicky SHift KEy
VRC #0010 (Exothermic Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Redmond, Washington
Posts: 2,000
Rick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond reputeRick TYler has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Public School Teams that allow Private School students to join

Like quite a number of teams, we are an independent club, registered as an engineering Explorer Post through Learning for Life. As a non-profit we have very friendly relations with local schools, and as an Explorer Post, we control our own membership and have liability insurance through LFL. It's a great combination, and totally eliminates public/private/home school member issues. I think the schools like the fact that they aren't on the liability hook when we are at events, too, since these are always "Post activities" and not "school activities." Other robotics clubs register as Venturing Crews (Boy Scouts) and 4-H clubs.
__________________
Exothermic Robotics Club, Venturing Crew 2036
VRC 10A, 10B, 10D, 10Q, 10V, 10X, 10Z, and 575
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-12-2009, 17:55
rsaitz rsaitz is offline
Registered User
no team
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 9
rsaitz has a spectacular aura aboutrsaitz has a spectacular aura aboutrsaitz has a spectacular aura about
Re: Public School Teams that allow Private School students to join

folks, I appreciate all these responses. there are some good tips in here. I'm in process of getting the actual policy to understand the reasoning behind it. Please keep the comments/suggestions coming. and if you are a public school, where the team is hosted by the school and teachers are mentors, and have accepted private school kids, i'd love to here specifically about that.

A little more background: This team is a combination of two high schools in our community, which has been a challenge of its own. They won all the rookie awards last season across two regionals and went to champtionship. the team wants these private school students and view as core to the mission of FIRST and gracious professionalism.

Thanks again!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hawaii public schools go to 4 day school week waialua359 Robotics Education and Curriculum 29 23-09-2009 14:43
Volunteer Screening - High School Students Andrew General Forum 8 17-12-2003 21:42
High School Students... Pin Man Chit-Chat 20 06-09-2003 10:29
When do you (HS Students/College Students) go back to school? D.J. Fluck Chit-Chat 58 03-09-2002 12:14
Attention ALL High School students! archiver 2001 2 24-06-2002 01:26


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:42.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi