Looking for Videos, Pics, strategy etc. from 2004 First Frenzy game

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Make sure you watch the videos (not sure what match numbers, will look up later) of one of the greatest upsets in FIRST history in that Rhode Warriors archive, where the heavily favored alliance of 60, 33, and 1241 were defeated by the #8 alliance (pre-serpentine era) featuring 121 in the quarters.

Archimedes QFs. 60 and company were #1.

That particular selection was interesting, because there were 4 unbeaten teams. As I recall, #1 (60) picked 33, #2 picked 71 (or was 71, I forget), and #3 (571) picked #4 (330). Incidentally, this was the last year before the serpentine draft.

As for strategy, about half a dozen teams nationwide figured out that if you could get on the bar first, you could deny your opponents for the entire match. Two of them also figured out how to negate any doubler attempts. A different team went on to Einstein. Of course, this strategy led to an obvious disadvantage: a 2v1 on the floor.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by EricH

Archimedes QFs. 60 and company were #1.

That particular selection was interesting, because there were 4 unbeaten teams. As I recall, #1 (60) picked 33, #2 picked 71 (or was 71, I forget), and #3 (571) picked #4 (330). Incidentally, this was the last year before the serpentine draft.

I meant which matches they were in the Rhode Warriors archives. And while 2004 was the last year of 2v2, but the serpentine did not start until 2006. 2005 was 3v3, but still had a straight draft.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

I meant which matches they were in the Rhode Warriors archives. And while 2004 was the last year of 2v2, but the serpentine did not start until 2006. 2005 was 3v3, but still had a straight draft.

My bad. It's going to be matches 8 and 9 in their archives; looking at matches 10-12, they went up against 71 in their semifinal matches. 71 won the whole thing that year. The difference appears to be 237, one of the bar-blocking robots that year, running with your choice of 121 or 386 playing defense on the small-ball robot (1241 or 33), leaving 60 undefended most of the match.

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by EricH

...237, one of the bar-blocking robots that year...

Shimmy robot ftw! I think everyone loved our design that year because of it's simplicity, and very effective strategy the majority of the time!

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Shimmy robot ftw! I think everyone loved our design that year because of it's simplicity, and very effective strategy the majority of the time!

It was one of the smartest designs of 04. Our alliance learned that the hard way http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/17418

A really cool thing for your team members to do would be try out JVN's Weighted Objectives Table (highlighted in his white papers on here). Since you have many examples for solutions already, help your members figure out what is the best solution for 04's game and then figure out how your team specifically would be able to adapt that design using your available resources.

Have fun.

[CrashTestPilot]

Great thanks to all. Many videos to review and lots of good photos with commentaries. CD community is awesome.

While researching posts related to strategy I found this thread- many good pointers related to evaluating highest possible score, offense, defense, speed etc.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Shimmy robot ftw! I think everyone loved our design that year because of it's simplicity, and very effective strategy the majority of the time!

I seem to remember that there was another slider in Archi that could beat you guys... My count says 5 sliders and one wing in the blocker class, and one of the sliders and the wing had anti-doubler capability. (The wing, of course, is 190, who is the team that managed to vault over 237 in the video linked earlier.)

[Justin Montois]

Funny this thread came up, I just uploaded the Einstein videos of 1126, 67 and 340 onto youtube. Enjoy.

SF 1 Match 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9gr...eature=related

SF 1 Match 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ3A6...eature=related

SF 1 Match 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pM0C...eature=related

I also have all of the Newton Elim matches. Maybe this thread will inspire me to youtube them as well....