[BB] 2010 Game Hint #1

[Eugene Fang]

Upon further inspection, I'm actually a little bit confused about the reflecting/refracting thing now.

Reason why I'm pretty sure it's not refracting the bar behind the lexan:
- You can't physically get it to refract like that (and you clearly see the non-refracted version of the bar through the lexan)

Reason why the lexan and bars are perpendicular:
- You can see the reflection of the left "bend" of the lexan, and it's perfectly vertical

Reason why the lexan and bars are NOT perpendicular:
- That weird angled reflection

[GGCO]

It looks like the reflection is almost a blue tube. If this is only 1/2 of a larger unit, maybe it fits inside of the game piece? I've attached a REALLY LOUSY photoshopped image of what the other half might look like. Basically, I think that it could fit over the current lexan and be secured by bolts or something - this would explain the holes in the lexan....



Then again, maybe I'm just nuts!

[RoboMaster]

Here's an annotated picture. Compare to the original to see what I am coloring over.

Red: reflection of left side of top tube, which is arrowed red
Blue: image of top right tube seen through the lexan
Purple: reflection of side "tab" (arrowed purple) and related screws (circled in reflection)
Green: reflection of curve
Yellow: unknown

At least, those are my thoughts. I'm having second guesses about the blue annotations, those reflections have a notch in them where there shouldn't be one. (The red has a notch/ledge if you don't know what I mean)

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by GGCO

It looks like the reflection is almost a blue tube.

Are you talking about the 2007 game hint?

[TEntwistle]

Originally Posted by RoboMaster

Here's an annotated picture. Compare to the original to see what I am coloring over.

Red: reflection of top left tube, which is arrowed red
Blue: image of top right tube seen through the lexan
Purple: reflection of side "tab" (arrowed purple) and related screws (circled in reflection)
Green: reflection of curve
Yellow: unknown

I agree with this completely. What if the purpose of the hint is just to suggest that we will be working with reflected images? Could there be mirrors on the playing field, or camera-aided vision that is electronically altered to give us a distorted (reflected) image?

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by RoboMaster

Here's an annotated picture. Compare to the original to see what I am coloring over.

Red: reflection of top left tube, which is arrowed red
Blue: image of top right tube seen through the lexan
Purple: reflection of side "tab" (arrowed purple) and related screws (circled in reflection)
Green: reflection of curve
Yellow: unknown

At least, those are my thoughts. I'm having second guesses about the blue annotations, those reflections have a notch in them where there shouldn't be one. (The red has a notch/ledge if you don't know what I mean)

Thanks that clears it up a lot.
But I think the purple circles you have are more related to the "reflected red" than the purple. And I still don't get how it's reflecting. If the purple is vertical, it means the lexan is not bent. Yet it has to be bent for the reflected red to be angled.

Also, I think the "unknown yellow" is the real reflection of the top left tube, making it the red that's unkown.
See this post http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=77

[FIRSTtm134]

I think it is similar to the 2007 game where you had to stack swim tubes. maybe you have to stack something on a series of these attached to some sort of rack. I dont think it will be a center piece like in 2007 but maybe 2 per alliance? something small, maybe raised off the ground about 2 ft rising up to 5 ft? just throwing it out there.

[Bomberofdoom]

Originally Posted by Foster

It's a set of support parts that telescope.

And with the reflections it's not on water its ON ICE!!

It's an ICE ski support with the rest of the ski to be attached.

WE ARE ON THE ICE! Woo roboteers, start your skate machines!

First one to mention it, so I kudos him for having the same thought as I have.
Now to look through the rest of the posts...

[GGCO]

Originally Posted by Pikat

Are you talking about the 2007 game hint?

Nope - this year's clue.

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by GGCO

Nope - this year's clue.

Oh I get what you're talking about now. Yeah, theres an odd tint of blue to the reflection...

[GGCO]

Originally Posted by Bomberofdoom

First one to mention it, so I kudos him for having the same thought as I have.
Now to look through the rest of the posts...

Vancouver Olympics theme anyone?

[FIRSTtm134]

Lets just hope its not the speed skating even where we go in circles like in 2008 XD

[RoboMaster]

Originally Posted by Pikat

Oh I get what you're talking about now. Yeah, theres an odd tint of blue to the reflection...

That is interesting. Only what is being reflected that is blue? It's the background, which I take to be another CAD software fault. Just like how the lexan is yellowish.

[gallo26]

Originally Posted by RoboMaster

That is interesting. Only what is being reflected that is blue? It's the background, which I take to be another CAD software fault. Just like how the lexan is yellowish.

Well I'm not too sure it' blue. I think thats just what the reflection looks like in the lexan. Its smoked lexan, which looks like a funny yellow when rendered. It could be a pole of any color for support, or interaction. It could even be a really large pole, but really far away from this piece making the reflection tiny.

[Joe Schornak]

After careful examination of the object, I have concluded that it is, in fact, a track. [Insert Admiral Ackbar Here]

The little nubby-things towards the ends of the pipes will lock into a larger rail assembly. The small angle of the Lexan and the rounded cut in the top edge of the piece allow balls to roll along it,

Beyond this point, there are two possible functions of the object within the track assembly:

1. It's a support for the track. The transparent material is not, in fact, Lexan, but a solid-state transparent titanium alloy, allowing the delicate-looking support to withstand the high stress of any gameplay.

2. More likely, the Lexan serves as a mounting point for some sort of ball-counting sensor. This would allow accurate real-time scoring of large numbers of balls. It could include a color sensor, in which case the balls are multi-colored and worth different values for each color.

I envision a track system mounted above the driver stations on each end of the field (assuming normal field shape) or on the sides where the payload special1sts were in 2009. Balls start at some central point in the field, and must be collected by the robots and placed or shot into some sort of recepticle, whereupon they fall onto the track and roll past the ball counter into a return device. Balls are worth different point values depending on their color, and perhaps begin in different places based on their color, with the high-value ones the most difficult to collect.

Of course, this is probably all wrong, and the object will be used as some sort of judging device in the pits. FIRST would do that, just to spite us.

More to come after further thought.