Instalation with wMS Windows 7 (64)

[sbrumund]

WE purchased a new computer for this years competition with the 64 bit Windows 7 operating system.

When we try to install the 2009 Lab View software we get an error message
SDK fnction returned an error Error code -12.

Is there a new version of Lab view that is compatable with Windows 7.


WE would like to get this coputer set up and running before the Kickoff

[Jon236]

If you install each program separately, one at a time, Win7 will install them in the legacy folder. Hopefully this will be fixed for the 2010 version!

[buddyb]

*EDIT* Try Jon's method first. It looks a bit easier. . If that fails, try this.

Originally Posted by sbrumund

WE purchased a new computer for this years competition with the 64 bit Windows 7 operating system.

When we try to install the 2009 Lab View software we get an error message
SDK fnction returned an error Error code -12.

Is there a new version of Lab view that is compatable with Windows 7.


WE would like to get this coputer set up and running before the Kickoff

Try this (not proven to work with LabVIEW, but it works for other programs; it's 7's "Run in XP mode/Run in Vista mode" feature):

1. Copy all of the files on the LabVIEW CD to your Hard Drive, in a seperate folder (ie Labview install)
2. Right-click setup.exe (or whichever program the disc autoruns), click Properties, click the Compatibility tab, and check the 'Run this program in compatibility mode for:' box. Select Vista SP2.
3. Click Apply, and run the setup program.

If this works, excellent. If not, try Vista SP0, and XP SP3. If neither of these change it, try right-clicking the executable and looking for a Troubleshoot Compatibility option. Click on this if it appears.

If none of these work, then I suggest setting up a VM on your W7 machine to run XP, or waiting until the new LabVIEW software is released.

Best of luck!
~Buddy

[sbrumund]

Tried copying the install program to the hard drive.
We cannot get to the point of installing the programs separately before windows & shuts it down.
Have tried the compatability mode without results.

To run in XP emulation mode will require an upgrade to MS Win 7 pro and the instalation of the compatability programs. I would prefer to avoid this.

Will we be getting an updated version of Lab View for the 2010 season
the 2009 season used 8.51 lab view is currenlty at 9.0 which should be compatable.

[Madison]

Consider that FIRST/NI will not support Windows 7 in 2010 as per an entry at Bill's Blog.

http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2009...r-kickoff.html

This information may (and should) be present in the manual as well.

Given that this is the case, I would be wary of using a machine with Windows 7 on it for now. While it's likely you'll get Labview to work with Windows 7 -- my team has, though I was not involved and am no help in that regard -- it will provide a convenient "out" for folks at NI/FIRST should you run into problems in the future.

[Tom Line]

I would be stunned if you recieved labview 9.0.

We have been beta testing with 8.X.X. I doubt they'd be beta testing with a version they don't intend to use.

It has been posted on the First Robotics Labview 2010 Beta forums since October 19th 2009 that Windows 7 is not supported this year. Here:

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=13158

It was also posted on Bill's Blog (as shown above).

That's not to say you can't get it to run - we have 3 computers I'm aware of running windows 7 and the beta labview without an issue. Each portion had to be installed individually, but it did work for us. That's just to say that you shouldn't expect it to actually work.

If you do a search you'll find better instructions from our Beta-Partner (and sister team) 2604 on how they got it to work.

Good luck!

[sbrumund]

I have looked at the DVD and now see what you mean by installing the pieces from the distribution file and it apppears that the pieces will install.

Is there any preference in the order in which the pieces should be installed

[IceStorm]

Originally Posted by Tom Line

I would be stunned if you recieved labview 9.0.

We have been beta testing with 8.X.X. I doubt they'd be beta testing with a version they don't intend to use.

It has been posted on the First Robotics Labview 2010 Beta forums since October 19th 2009 that Windows 7 is not supported this year. Here:

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=13158

It was also posted on Bill's Blog (as shown above).

That's not to say you can't get it to run - we have 3 computers I'm aware of running windows 7 and the beta labview without an issue. Each portion had to be installed individually, but it did work for us. That's just to say that you shouldn't expect it to actually work.

If you do a search you'll find better instructions from our Beta-Partner (and sister team) 2604 on how they got it to work.

Good luck!

In response to what Tom said. Last years installer for the 2009 FRC edition had to be installed seperatly and took a very long ammount of time. I have multiple windows 7 systems that we have played with along with the new beta and the "scripted" for lack of better term installer appears to be able to work just fine on both 32 and 64 bit windows 7 editions.

While it is not officially supported it does appear to work without any issues. We used my laptop that was running a beta version of windows 7 last year in a pinch to change some code between matches when the Ethernet port on our primary programming laptop went out and wouldn't connect to the driver station or crio directly after a large static shock. I have also used it with the beta version this year and have yet to see it not work properly.

One big thing to mention when it comes to the 64 to 32 bit versions is the use of the C:\program files(x86)\ folder where labview installs on 64bit does not exist on the 32 bit version (its c:\program files\ instead) and any code that is moved between versions will need to be relinked to there respected vi's.

[IceStorm]

Originally Posted by sbrumund

I have looked at the DVD and now see what you mean by installing the pieces from the distribution file and it apppears that the pieces will install.

Is there any preference in the order in which the pieces should be installed

I want to say that i just started with the first folder and kept working though them. If I were you though I would just wait until kickoff on the 9th for the new version to hit and save yourself the huge headache of uninstalling last years version to install the new version

[sbrumund]

We were able to install the programs individually.

What was suprising is that the update installed without a problem and it updated multiple programs.

I beleive it has to do with how the multiple instal program was written and not the programs themselves.

We will have to uninstall and reinstall but we wanted to make sure before the kickoff.

Thanks for you help