2010 Game Hint #2

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by JimWright949

I think this is a gate in the middle of the field, the yellow is to indicate where the yellow alliance is to enter the field. 3x3x3 game, without wheels is my guess.

-Jim

But how do you navigate there from the homepage, or from the FRC page as Bill's blog noted?

[DUCKIE]

The Yellow squares in the drawing are to prevent/identify tripping hazards around the fields. All fields had them... maybe not all were yellow... but they were there.

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[dustinjeremy2k]

Originally Posted by DUCKY

Looks like the typical gate design.

I agree. I can't make out any significant change.

Originally Posted by DUCKY

I cannot tell if gate is larger than usual.... but I would not complain. A larger gate would make moving robots and people on and off field safer.

Again, I'm with you there. One thing I'd like to point out is there has ALWAYS been two complete sections between the corner of the playing field and the gate. Check your old photos. We cannot see two complete sections on either side, so... we can't really tell where this is on the field! I don't know why everyone is assuming the gate could only fit in the center?

Originally Posted by DUCKY

It is missing the Plexiglas/Lexan sections that have protected the sides of the field for the last 3 or 4 years though.

This was my second observation, but again, I think it's a mistake (like the yellow trip hazard plates that should be bent instead of flat). I can't imagine that FIRST would run the risk of having a robot catch one of the uprights and damage the field.... Small beans.

The hint is simply CARPET... yahoo! I guess I didn't waste my summer on another pointless drive concept!

[ALIBI]

See the second photo on post #49 by Cyberphill. The "yellow" plate was only on one side of the gate, now there is a "yellow" plate on both sides in the clue. The photograph shows four "yellow" plates between the gates. The gates have simply been moved one section in towards the middle and they now have the "yellow" plates on both sides.

[TD912]

How'd you find the URL to the hint already? I don't see it on the FRC page above Hint 1... Or was it just some lucky content id number guessing?

EDIT: Looks like it's up on the site now...

[TD912]

Originally Posted by rsisk

If the gate is in the center of the field, does that mean we go from four gates to two? How is that going to affect traffic flow? Especially when the scoring table and a lot of the electronics run to the middle of the field?

So maybe they are not in the center, but just offset more from the driver stations, maybe at the next side rail segment (I think there are 7 per side)

Maybe the field is a different shape? Triangle? Hexagon? With starting positions or maybe some kind of goal in each corner? You never know...

And maybe it's just the perspective, but the carpet/regolith/floor(maybe rubberized or *high* friction floors, or maybe even a padded floor??) ends right behind the view of the pipe guardrail. Just a random observation.

[johnr]

Still can't find hint directly from home site. Maybe all is not what it appears.

[Ziaholic]

Originally Posted by johnr

Still can't find hint directly from home site. Maybe all is not what it appears.

Same here. I noted my concerns back on page 2 of this thread. Somehow, between posts #8 and #9, somebody spontaneously found Clue-2. Puzzling.

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by TD912

Maybe the field is a different shape? Triangle? Hexagon? With starting positions or maybe some kind of goal in each corner? You never know...

And maybe it's just the perspective, but the carpet/regolith/floor(maybe rubberized or *high* friction floors, anyone?) ends right behind the view of the pipe guardrail. Just a random observation.

Note to everyone: the picture is rendered as if one was standing on the field and looking out. The yellow is on the outside of the field.

[Ziaholic]

Originally Posted by Ted Weisse

Link to real Hint #2

http://usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/....aspx?id=16119

This link was already posted on page 1 of this thread ... not sure what you're trying to accomplish here, or with the new "real" thread that you created.





(but at least now I can see a link to Hint #2 on the main FRC page ... so that question is resolved ...)

[JesseK]

So...the floor looks like carpet. Dave's game hint is "What is may not be what it [seems]". So it's not really carpet. It is flat though. Or is it?

Or perhaps the hint refers to how hard it can be for a robot to open the gate. Field reset volunteers know what I'm talking about. It's a simple latch ... except ... Or perhaps it refers to the hump underneath the gate, meaning the field isn't flat.

See, it's so ambiguous I simply must be correct.

[TD912]

Originally Posted by Pikat

Note to everyone: the picture is rendered as if one was standing on the field and looking out. The yellow is on the outside of the field.

Yeah I realized that. But the floor texture inside the field doesn't look like carpet from previous years, which is why I made the comment about rubberized/high traction flooring. Maybe it's the 'opposite' of regolith? Or maybe they just used a different program or texture to render it?

[Ted Weisse]

[quote=Ziaholic;893537]This link was already posted on page 1 of this thread ... not sure what you're trying to accomplish here, or with the new "real" thread that you created.




Sorry bad post.

Mod has closed it and best to delete it if they would please.

Sorry.

[bduddy]

Originally Posted by ALIBI

See the second photo on post #49 by Cyberphill. The "yellow" plate was only on one side of the gate, now there is a "yellow" plate on both sides in the clue. The photograph shows four "yellow" plates between the gates. The gates have simply been moved one section in towards the middle and they now have the "yellow" plates on both sides.

To make this clearer, look at this picture:
http://usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/FE-00032.pdf

Assuming the basic shape and construction of the field is the same, including the yellow plates (a big assumption!), there could very easily be four gates, each between a pair of the yellow plates. Aside from that, the gates appear to look the same way they always have. Of course, they might just be pulling a fast one on us...

[lingomaniac88]

The first thing I thought of when I saw this was garbage cans with the "step to open" mechanism:



Perhaps it's something that human players can step on to control a certain aspect of the field, such as a chute to release game pieces or the position of a scoring location.